cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/1834950
Privacy activists are warning about the invasive nature of DeepSeek, which collects a trove of personal user information that could be handed over to the Chinese government
People, however, just don’t care.
Luke de Pulford, co-founder of the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China (IPAC), shared screenshots from the Chinese AI chatbot’s privacy policy, which stated data it collects is stored in “secure servers located in the People’s Republic of China.”
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“Just fyi, @deepseek_ai collects your IP, keystroke patterns, device info, etc etc, and stores it in China, where all that data is vulnerable to arbitrary requisition from the [Chinese] State,” said de Pulford, leader of IPAC, a global group of lawmakers who seek to hold China accountable for democratic abuses.
“Anticipating tedious whataboutery: the difference between this and free-world social media apps is that you can enforce your data rights in rule of law countries. This is not the case in China,” said de Pulford.
the difference between this and free-world social media apps is that you can enforce your data rights in rule of law countries
As an American I feel like my data rights are soooo enforced by the burgerland and its Freedoms™©®
Privacy activists are warning about the invasive nature of DeepSeek, which collects a trove of personal user information that could be handed over to the Chinese government
America is like a wolf dressed as a boy crying wolf. US businesses and gov’t have been doing everything these US gov’t funded organizations warn about.
“Anticipating tedious whataboutery: the difference between this and free-world social media apps is that you can enforce your data rights in rule of law countries. This is not the case in China,” said de Pulford.
This one doesn’t checkouts Pulford.
you can enforce your data rights in rule of law countries
😂
Desensitizing people to having no privacy from their own state and ‘local’ corporations will do that
All AI does this. It just becomes more obvious that this is tired old anti-China propaganda because we don’t see similar articles for OpenAI and other US-based AI tools.
The difference is that OpenAI is closed-source so you never know what it’s actually doing, and DeepSeek being open source means the data being sent can be seen, and the mechanisms can be removed.
we don’t see similar articles for OpenAI and other US-based AI tools.
I don’t know what kind of media you consume, but I read such articles all the time. And as I said already here, there is still a difference as surveillance and censorship is much harsher in China than anywhere else.
(It’s amazing. I’m really new on Lemmy, but it seems whataboutery is a thing here …)
surveillance and censorship is much harsher in China than anywhere else.
source of this claim?
It’s only Chinese surveillance and censorship when you don’t use an open source fork of DeepSeek, which is not possible with OpenAI or any of the other US-based big names. There’s already versions of DS that remove the telemetry and censorship. So it becomes a moot point for one and an unsolvable problem for the others.
Edit: I can’t find one that mentions removal or blocking of telemetry, but this one removes the censorship mechanism. Point still stands. Your data is out there with whoever your AI provider is. It’s part of why I don’t use AI for anything sensitive or important.
Can you share your sources for such articles or at least the articles themselves please?
His asshole
Not actually suprising. They got used over the years to be pulled over the barrel by each and every app. Why should they differenciate between American data leeches and privacy infringers, and those from China.
There would be a lot of reasons to differentiate between democracies and autocracies, but I agree that it’s not surprising. This is just the next step of a totally over-hyped technology imo. Here everyone gets excited about a performance while no one even knows what the training data is, but people are excited by these PR announcements.
So democracies and… US and China? I agree.
