• mr_manager@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    Imperialist power can be expressed in many ways, and China uses economic rather than military force in most places. They’re just as happy to use force though - like their displays around Taiwan and elsewhere. Trying to present China as some benevolent alternative to U.S Imperial power is absurd. If anything they are more ruthless; certainly even more willing to use force against dissenters or populations like the Uyghurs, the Tibetans, or democracy activists in Taiwan. They are also doing to Africa what the states did to the Americas in the 20th century; ensnaring any country they can in a debt trap in order to secure and extract their natural resources. I suppose it is an interesting thought experiment; is it better for your imperialist power to rely on economic violence rather than traditional military force?Maybe fewer innocent people get bombs dropped on them. Seems like a pretty dystopian system either way though.

  • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 days ago

    China invests on a plan to overthrow democracies over 100 years.

    Everything they do is solely for that purpose, and they are pretty open about it.

      • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 days ago

        The US has no long term plan, they’re a bunch of kids playing with armies like little plastic toys. Are you seriously implying that Trump is following a 100-years long master plan?

        • The Spectre@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
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          6 days ago

          Only one country has 800 military bases around the world and has invaded and bombed almost every single country on Earth

          • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            6 days ago

            And only one country has control over basically the whole manufacturing of the world.

            You’re just throwing some accusations at the US thinking that it makes China better, it doesn’t. You don’t have to support one or the other, you know, the world is not that binary.

    • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 days ago

      Well, I’d be happy for my government to invest in overtaking the world if that would make it build houses and develop cities.

        • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          Sorry you mean it’s not already doing that? I missed it, because I’m not blind so I can see those things being destroyed currently and for 20 years now. Are you so blind that you didn’t see the effects of the 11th of September 2001? I guess you’re a liberal…

          • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            6 days ago

            And you think that stupid people doing nonsense without reason is the same as a government playing on the long run and actively engineering every step of the way?

            But of course you try to pin a random label because you see that your argument is too weak and you need a strawman.

            Also, no one here said or even implied that the US is doing good. But if you think that stupid evil is worse than smart evil, you definitely are more blind than you think.

            • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              5 days ago

              Oh so you think that the racism in your country is merely because people are stupid? Or maybe you pretend that the USA wasn’t trying to be the world overlord since ww2?

              It’s always easier to see the straw in the eye of your enemy than the tree you have in yours. But maybe you’re just stupid I guess.

              • Solumbran@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                5 days ago

                My country? Ok bro. Then calling me stupid, ironic.

                And yes, most of the US’s racism is out of nearsighted stupidity. They have no idea what they’re doing and certainly are unable to have a long term plan.

                Wanting to steal other countries is just a typical thing that “powerful” countries do when they are led stupidly, it’s not a big scheme.

                I don’t know what your game is here but you really don’t know how to play it.

                • bouh@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  5 days ago

                  There’s no game to play. You’re merely vilifying China while ignoring or excusing all the things USA do. There’s absolutely zero honesty in your point of view. You’re a zealot preaching on social media is the game you’re playing.

                  If you think racism and sexism are simple stupidity, you’re just as stupid as the people you’re judging here. If you think USA is less evil than China regarding geopolitics, then not only are you naive, but also uninformed and blind.

                  Which leads to the game I’m playing: you’re vilifying China when your country is not better, so I’m making fun of you because you deserve it.

                  And if you’re not from USA but from Europe, it’s not better.