• jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works
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      5 days ago

      Not all of south America is latin american and the US hasnt respected non latin american sovereignty either.

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        I don’t think the US has fucked with Belize, Suriname, or Guyana’s soveriegnty. Those are the only non-latin South/Central Americans.

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          Guyana would disagree, given the US and CIA backed Burnham who became a dictator

          Washington, DC, April 6, 2020 – Cold War concerns about another Communist Cuba in Latin America drove President John F. Kennedy to approve a covert CIA political campaign to rig national elections in British Guiana, then a British colony but soon to be independent, according to declassified documents posted today by the National Security Archive.

          U.S. intelligence concluded that Prime Minister Cheddi Jagan, one of the main presidential candidates in the upcoming 1964 elections, was a communist, although not necessarily under the sway of Moscow.  Nevertheless, Kennedy decided Jagan would have to go and urged London to cooperate in the effort.  As early as mid-1962, JFK informed the British prime minister that the notion of an independent state led by Jagan “disturbs us seriously,” adding: “We must be entirely frank in saying that we simply cannot afford to see another Castro-type regime established in this Hemisphere. It follows that we should set as our objective an independent British Guiana under some other leader.”

          https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/intelligence/2020-04-06/cia-covert-operations-overthrow-cheddi-jagan-british-guiana-1964

          In the 80s they wanted to overthrow suriname and were training troops in French Guiana to invade suriname

          https://archive.org/details/USAPlannedInvasionInSurinameToOverthrowBouterseCNNReport

          https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp88-01070r000200720003-6

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      It is a joke about the Confederacy in the American civil war

      The joke is that when southern states seceded from the Union the northern US went to war to force them back in which set off the US civil war.

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        This ignores things like slave catchers who ventured across state borders into the north to catch free men (illegally) and the south by seceding was taking hostage those people and other Americans. West Virginia exists because the government of Virginia decided they wanted to secede but the people didn’t

        Also states don’t get to vote on laws and just leave and get their way anyways if the vote doesn’t go their way. That’s the agreement they made, and the only basis they had for seceding was they feared a law that would make them unable to own slaves.

        The confederacy also started the war with the north by attacking fort Sumter

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        It is a joke about the Confederacy in the American civil war

        Oh, I thought it was about the '60s–'80s with regimes like Pinochet and Banzer and the series of military dictatorships in Brazil.

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        Thanks, I came from a different POV, the US meddling to install and support dictators in Latin America is well known and documented