• Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    If we pull out of NATO and stop being America’s bitch does that mean can we stop kissing Israel’s ass?

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    “Do the unthinkable” => Think for themselves

    Desperate measures => sovereignity

    unclear real winners => China, Russia, communists

    Things could change => Reality is setting in for the Anglo-imperialists that they’re no longer in the front seat and with Euro vassals that they’re not even in the car anymore, China is.

    Now let’s look at the desperate measure options…

    1. The no option

    Announcing that you’re willing to quit NATO… Oh heavens almighty!! Such strong words!!! Clearly the biggest measure in world history. It does not compare to “fighting for Ukraine to the bitter end”, meaning to the last Ukrainian, or “Russia’s SMO is soft term for full-scale invasion” in terms of strongness.

    But at least the author is willing to admit that the EU is licking boot and doesn’t seem to mind giving everyone the impression that it is, it’s just the rejection it got was a kick in the face to him. The EU is not being kicked in the face though. That happened when the Nordstream pipeline blew up.

    The new sheriff in town just isn’t interested in pouring money into a losing war when its two pillars of exploitative power created in the 1970s is under threat. And fascists don’t align with imperialists. Fascists want full direct control or no control at all.

    1. The safe option no one wants

    Except for two issues. One minor and two major.

    The minor one is the fact that it requires to throw out every European politician but a handful of socialists and nationalists out of office, starting with Ursula von der Leyen.

    The first major one however is the fact that the EU recently burned all bridges with Russia, with all the natural gas now being sold to China.

    The second major one is that China is the country that’s rising to the top and gaining cultural influence. Russia has no cultural influence. People are even still hating on the EU and wanting their powerless nation to lick US boot only because the EU has no cultural influence, despite having zero diplomatic trade power otherwise.

    1. The soon to be very popular option.

    Africa will develop its economy, so any immigration problem will be of people leaving the EU. Wealth from solar power will arrive there like a Ne Zha sequel on the world stage of cinema. Sudden.

    Praising China will become very popular soon as China’s cultural power is skyrocketing, but the EU has already slavishly followed a distant nation around.

    We’re also likely to see war between the US and China. Do we want to go to arms with those who prefer option 4?

    1. The missing option that’s still extremely popular

    Wait it out and let US fascism take over. It’ll get worse, but I don’t see EU culture and politics going anywhere than licking more US boot.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      It’s also worth noting that we are witnessing a split is between the US and Europe, as the world moves toward a multipolar order. The alliance between Russia and China will only keep getting stronger because they have a common goal of creating an economic bloc that cannot be sanctioned by the West. We can already see positive results as Russian economy is growing faster than Europe’s despite being cut off from Western markets. A direct implication the sanctions proving to be ineffective is that being integrated with the West offers little economic value. It is now possible for countries to thrive entirely outside the Western system.

      The US seems to be adapting to the new reality. An attempt to normalize relations with Russia could be a recognition that the rise of the Global South is rendering the existing world order obsolete. The US is now positioning itself to have a say in the new multipolar system.

      Meanwhile, Europe has failed to adapt and now faces the consequences of its hubris. Instead of proactively shaping its place in the emerging multipolar world, Europe will likely be forced to accept whatever terms are dictated to it, leaving it in a far weaker position than it could have been.