• AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    american here.

    watching the video of trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said “thank you” at the wrong time is insulting. dear president zelensky: i am so sorry you have to interact with that donut and his side of coffee. you, sir, are a classy fellow who deserves to be respected.

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      4 days ago

      I couldn’t even make it through a minute without rage building up and had to turn off the video. That he could sit there and put up with that ridiculous circus without getting up and leaving or punching them in the face is amazing. I could not do that. I’m pissed off again writing this and being reminded of the short video I watched.

      • Tiger@sh.itjust.works
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        3 days ago

        If you can give it another look it’s worth it to just see how adept and tough Zelenskyy is, they couldn’t shake him and get him to make a real error. They come out looking terrible and most folks will like Zelenskyy more than ever.

      • margaritox@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        I couldn’t watch that shit either. Gotta admit, I’m a little relieved that it is the general consensus that they were being major dicks.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      trump and vance yelling at an ally in need of help because he said “thank you” at the wrong time

      That isn’t what they were doing at all.

      They were yelling at an enemy in hopes of provoking him, in order to manufacture a justification for their own treachery.

      As Americans, we need to understand that Trump is unilaterally forcing the US to switch sides – to betray NATO and join Russia and North Korea as pariah dictatorships – and we need to decide what we’re going to do about it.

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        No, I think it goes deeper than that. They have no loyalty to America, they have loyalty to their ideology. This is why they sympathise with the AfD, Brexit and the rest. They seek control only to enrich themselves. Russia isn’t an ally, it’s an aspiration

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          3 days ago

          Here’s the kicker, Russia as it stands today, is an all American creation.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)

          In post-Soviet Russia and other post-Communist states, neoliberal reforms based on the Washington Consensus resulted in a surge in excess mortality and decreasing life expectancy, along with rising economic inequality, corruption, and poverty. Isabella Weber of the University of Massachusetts said: “As a result of shock therapy, Russia experienced a rise in mortality beyond that of any previous peacetime experiences of an industrialized country.”: 2  The Gini ratio increased by an average of 9 points for all post-Communist states. The average post-Communist state had returned to 1989 levels of per-capita GDP by 2005, although some are still far behind that. In Russia, the average real income for 99 percent of people was lower in 2015 than in 1991.: 2  According to William Easterly, successful market economies rest on a framework of law, regulation, and established practice, which cannot be instantaneously created in a society that was formerly authoritarian, heavily centralised, and subject to state ownership of assets.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        Exactly. They were hoping that Zelenskyy wouldn’t just turn the other cheek. Because if Zelenskyy got agitated, they would use it as justification for cutting all ties.