• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    I’ll make a counterpoint, honestly, conservative spaces aren’t handling the stopping all federal grants things well.

    Lots of fiscal conservatives are suddenly having their stomachs drop realizing that Trump could actually cause a depression doing this kind of dumb shit.

    I’m actually beginning to be skeptical of how much of this kind of insane shit they’ll actually put up with, because a lot of conservative people seemingly are actually loudly saying “Wait a minute, this could actually be really bad…”

    Even on “flaired user only” threads on reddits /r/conservative there are many responses by obviously not-complete-dipshit conservatives while the rest of them are complaining about brigading in a flaired user thread lol.

    I actually began wondering today if he crashes the economy if we’ll end up seeing the conservatives go Gaddafi on Trump.

    Propaganda only goes so far if the botton falls out of your economy entirely. If suddenly they all don’t have jobs or hope for a future I don’t think they’re going to sit around and keep praising Trump.


    Further evidence from an AP Poll:

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/new-poll-recommends-eating-the-billionaires

    AP has a new poll out which asked whether people think it’s a good or bad thing that the President “relies on billionaires for advice about government policy.” When I first saw the results of this poll as “good” coming in at “+12” I thought they meant ‘net’ 12% and I thought, ‘eeeesh, the honeymoon phase is more intense than I thought!’ But no, 12%: as in, 12% of the public think it’s a good thing. 60% think it’s not. That’s US adults. The only outliers are Republicans, 20% of whom think this is a good thing. But even that is pretty feeble. To put it simply, these are terrible numbers.

    The easiest way to break people from propaganda is to simply let their personal lived reality become to starkly different from the propaganda that they can no longer ignore it in front of their own face. Trump may inadvertently give us that.

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      Hopefully he also inadvertently gives us a democratic federal government and leaves the republican party in a fractured mess.

      Thank the heavens he’s term limited.

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      I’ll make a counterpoint, honestly, conservative spaces aren’t handling the stopping all federal grants things well.

      Lots of fiscal conservatives are suddenly having their stomachs drop realizing that Trump could actually cause a depression doing this kind of dumb shit.

      I’m actually beginning to be skeptical of how much of this kind of insane shit they’ll actually put up with, because a lot of conservative people seemingly are actually loudly saying “Wait a minute, this could actually be really bad…”

      They always, always fall in line.

      Even if they continue their idle consternation, if the election were held again today they would all vote identically.

      I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

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        2 days ago

        This doesn’t reflect what we saw during his first administration. At all.

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          His base turning on him 1) requires that they admit they were duped which they can’t since their whole identities are tied up in MAGA and 2) barely matters at this point. Despite his bullshitting hes not running again. He doesn’t need them anymore. None of this matters.

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      Depression? Trump could cause a civil war and the collapse of the American empire, in a way it will probably never recover from.

      I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m just saying these sober fiscal conservatives you mention have their heads up their asses so far that it’s coming back out between their front teeth, even as far as their own self-interest. Of course, there is nothing new there.