It’s not even just this server, it’s the growing amount of servers that do, and by comparison our registrations are way better, many of the others are way more vague and unhelpful, they carry the chance of being denied when you aren’t a spammer. Which is where most of my animosity towards this comes from. I obviously don’t blame you for this, if anything I blame the Lemmy devs for encouaging this as not a solution but THE solution. With no regard for how this impacts growth and onboarding.
Also I say I’d believe it when I see it because I am on a handful of servers who haven’t decided to become bouncers and they’re not brimming with more spam than scripts can handle. It’s doesn’t seem like a real systemic problem, maybe we should learn a thing or two from the admins of sh.itjust.works when it comes to automated handling of spam.
The problem is that not every admin has the technical know-how to deal with spammers like that and they can’t just “learn it” either. The skillset required here takes years to master. Even tools that I provide for free like threativore are usually too much for an amateur admin.
That actually is a good point, and for ones who are in that position I would agree. Honestly I feel the Lemmy devs should be trying to make anti-spam like this easier on people than advocating we make people play 20 questions of jump through hoops to join. Because this hurts us all in the long run.
I know in Fediverse rhetoric people parrot crap about how growth isn’t important but that’s dumb and wrong. It absolutely is otherwise I’m talking to myself when I try to start a community, and that feels like shit.
The problem is that everyone has their own priorities that they absolutely feel the lemmy devs should be working on first. It would honestly be much better if people joined and developed the features they think are lacking. Threativore and fediseer were started exactly because of the spam problems we’ve been having and expected to have, but there’s so few people joining us to improve them. I can’t even get a UI dev to help with the flairs.
Personally, I open comms for myself, to have places to post things I find. Places like !eudaimonia@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com were mostly for me, but I tend to find a few weirdoes who join me. But I don’t mind. Obviously you have a different perspective since you want to discuss with someone, but we can’t just replace reddit that easily. Reddit took decades to get where it’s at, as traditional bb forums lost prominence. I believe the flow of history is on our side. We’ll get there…
It’s not even just this server, it’s the growing amount of servers that do, and by comparison our registrations are way better, many of the others are way more vague and unhelpful, they carry the chance of being denied when you aren’t a spammer. Which is where most of my animosity towards this comes from. I obviously don’t blame you for this, if anything I blame the Lemmy devs for encouaging this as not a solution but THE solution. With no regard for how this impacts growth and onboarding.
Also I say I’d believe it when I see it because I am on a handful of servers who haven’t decided to become bouncers and they’re not brimming with more spam than scripts can handle. It’s doesn’t seem like a real systemic problem, maybe we should learn a thing or two from the admins of sh.itjust.works when it comes to automated handling of spam.
The problem is that not every admin has the technical know-how to deal with spammers like that and they can’t just “learn it” either. The skillset required here takes years to master. Even tools that I provide for free like threativore are usually too much for an amateur admin.
That actually is a good point, and for ones who are in that position I would agree. Honestly I feel the Lemmy devs should be trying to make anti-spam like this easier on people than advocating we make people play 20 questions of jump through hoops to join. Because this hurts us all in the long run.
I know in Fediverse rhetoric people parrot crap about how growth isn’t important but that’s dumb and wrong. It absolutely is otherwise I’m talking to myself when I try to start a community, and that feels like shit.
The problem is that everyone has their own priorities that they absolutely feel the lemmy devs should be working on first. It would honestly be much better if people joined and developed the features they think are lacking. Threativore and fediseer were started exactly because of the spam problems we’ve been having and expected to have, but there’s so few people joining us to improve them. I can’t even get a UI dev to help with the flairs.
Personally, I open comms for myself, to have places to post things I find. Places like !eudaimonia@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com were mostly for me, but I tend to find a few weirdoes who join me. But I don’t mind. Obviously you have a different perspective since you want to discuss with someone, but we can’t just replace reddit that easily. Reddit took decades to get where it’s at, as traditional bb forums lost prominence. I believe the flow of history is on our side. We’ll get there…