Sounds like you formed an opinion on the game years ago and ignored everything about it since. The game’s been pretty good for years now, it had its redemption arc before Cyberpunk made it cool
They were definitely late on delivering for sure but they’ve gone beyond catching up at this point
“Pretty good” is a bit of a stretch. It’s not completely broken and they added some okay features since launch but overall it’s still a pretty mid game.
I’m not a huge fan of it still but at this point it’s not a bad game, just not to everyone’s taste (which btw seems to be true of most open world survival crafters… I’ve noticed that being a fan of any one of those games is a poor predictor of whether you’ll be a fan of any of the others).
I do think that they were locked into some bad design decisions from early on even with all the extra work they’ve put in.
They were definitely late on delivering for sure but they’ve gone beyond catching up at this point
Yeah, I don’t support fraud 🤷♂️ doesn’t matter how much they put into it after stealing millions of dollars through deceptive marketing and flat-out lies.
Doesn’t it matter though? Isn’t delivering the promised product the correct reparations for failing to deliver a product? Pretty sure it was easy to get a refund back then, too.
I haven’t played in a few years so I don’t know what’s changed (aside from unique ships) but that’s a pretty complete list. Sure it’s missing a few minor things but are you really going to pretend it fell so short of its goals?
No, you’re not. That’s why you shifted to talking about the sad state of the game at launch…something no one is saying isn’t true.
So you linked a spreadsheet that shows I’m correct, and use that to claim that I changed the subject and am shifting goalposts…
If both of my claims are objectively true - based on the source that YOU provided - then did I change the subject or was I just adding additional context? It sure seems more like you’re avoiding the subject and attacking a strawman instead of the arguments I made.
Sounds like you formed an opinion on the game years ago and ignored everything about it since. The game’s been pretty good for years now, it had its redemption arc before Cyberpunk made it cool
They were definitely late on delivering for sure but they’ve gone beyond catching up at this point
This does not excuse the blatant lies the developer told to market their game prior to release.
Ok?
You and this other guy sure are stuck on a point I wasn’t making. What’s that about?
“Pretty good” is a bit of a stretch. It’s not completely broken and they added some okay features since launch but overall it’s still a pretty mid game.
I’m not a huge fan of it still but at this point it’s not a bad game, just not to everyone’s taste (which btw seems to be true of most open world survival crafters… I’ve noticed that being a fan of any one of those games is a poor predictor of whether you’ll be a fan of any of the others).
I do think that they were locked into some bad design decisions from early on even with all the extra work they’ve put in.
It’s not a bit of a stretch. It’s ok that you don’t like it, though
Yeah, I don’t support fraud 🤷♂️ doesn’t matter how much they put into it after stealing millions of dollars through deceptive marketing and flat-out lies.
Doesn’t it matter though? Isn’t delivering the promised product the correct reparations for failing to deliver a product? Pretty sure it was easy to get a refund back then, too.
Ok? You know that your original complaint was wrong so you shifted to a new one?
How are my two complaints in any way different?
Your first complaint was that the game still isn’t complete, now your complaint is that they’re fraudsters for not delivering it on day 1.
So, try and follow me here… if the game still doesnt have features promised at launch, then did it have those features on day 1?
My complaint is the fraud, and always has been. Joking about how it still doesnt meet launch expectations is literally the same thing.
Can’t believe I’m wasting my time on this conversation but here’s a spreadsheet from 5 years ago showing what was promised, what was there at launch, and what was there when the list was made for reference.
I haven’t played in a few years so I don’t know what’s changed (aside from unique ships) but that’s a pretty complete list. Sure it’s missing a few minor things but are you really going to pretend it fell so short of its goals?
No, you’re not. That’s why you shifted to talking about the sad state of the game at launch…something no one is saying isn’t true.
You changed the subject.
So you linked a spreadsheet that shows I’m correct, and use that to claim that I changed the subject and am shifting goalposts…
If both of my claims are objectively true - based on the source that YOU provided - then did I change the subject or was I just adding additional context? It sure seems more like you’re avoiding the subject and attacking a strawman instead of the arguments I made.
You’re still thinking about this?