• mke@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    Does programming count as a hobby? I waste my free time on it… There’s this funny stereotype, of a queer programmer with long, quirky socks, and maybe even a fursona. Despite being a small percentage, such types are often overrepresented online. It used to bother me a little.

    Nowadays I’m so, so glad when someone I’m talking to is part of that group. It usually means I don’t need to worry about them being weirdly sexist, like women don’t suffer enough in the industry, or insisting that we need to keep politics out of tech (i.e. they want their politics to rule, unquestioned).

    Silly feelings on my part? Perhaps. One less thing to worry about, though.

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      2 days ago

      It’s such a shame. I feel like programmers were way more left only a decade or so ago.

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        2 days ago

        I wonder how true that is. Maybe they were considered left in their time, but something we see differently today, then. I really should hit the books on this one.

        It’s a bit of a tangent(!), but Parrish gave a talk I think is relevant here. In Programming is Forgetting (transcript, watching optional), she analyzes a book about hackers from the eighties and dissects the ethics of hacker culture—a very loose definition, mind you.

        This is all beside the point, because while interesting throughout what I’d really like to point to is the section on the rewiring of the PDP-1. Agree or disagree with any other, that part made me rethink how I saw older generations of programmers. I consider the dignity of all people an important tenet of my leftist values today, and women then were second-class, even in computing.

        So I feel like things have actually improved overall, but it’s difficult to say how much. That really is a shame, it ought to be a lot clearer.

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      3 days ago

      It’s wild how on the orange website I can read entirely sensible discussions about tricky Bash semantics or whatever, while people in a parallel thread are seriously arguing the Trump admin’s repressions are dwarfed by… whatever “repressions” they think happened during Covid. And I don’t even click on the threads about disabilities (especially autism) anymore because it’s so predictably sad.

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        3 days ago

        The comment sections are frequently just exhausting. People who read PG blog posts and then make comments pretending to be serious. Lunatics.

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      3 days ago

      I’ve had to stop watching/reading a load of programming stuff because numerous times I’ve found out the creator was just horrifically racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic or transphobic. It got too tiring having to investigate every author (not that it was difficult, they’re usually VERY open about being bigots).