“Scientist” as a general concept doesn’t have an inherent positive or negative value. Some scientists have invented things that saved lives or expanded our understanding of the universe. Others experimented on prisoners, or developed addicting drugs for big pharma. Personally I’d say scientists are more likely to resemble the first, not the second, but what defines the value is not the profession, but the actions they take as individuals.
His comment appeared to describe the issues with approval of scientists as a baseline, when the capitalist system they’re trapped within has other incentives and agendas. It’s a point one can certainly disagree with, but it is a coherent argument.
Oh shit, I see now. I wasn’t paying attention to what instance this post was in. I swear I usually know better than to look for a god-faith discussion in a .world comm, but we all slip up here and there. Anyhow, given your very-poor mental model of reality, I really wish you the best in the next couple months, shit is gonna be wild. Listen, I gotta log off for the day and collect my pay from my Russian Intelligence cut-out/handler. dasvidanya comrade!
Bro you win, just to see if I you were a bot, I read your post history. That means I had to read your egg post. So like, I lose, you win, that shit literally took years off my life. And I was just guessing when I went with the “I’m a Russian troll farm employee” bit. But looks like that was a correct guess—half your posting is claiming people are Russian propagandists. You do you man, have a good one.
I’d imagine for the same reasons that people study the past and try and understand how events unfold. People still mention the name Chamberlain when discussing the rise of the third reich for instance.
When Snowden released his collection of files way back when, he made the argument that the panopticon that was being built wasn’t being used in the worst way at the time of his decision to whistleblow. But his point was that the construction of such tools could not be justified based on their eventual use by a worse form of American govt.
When the liberal mainstream—and this includes Biden, major media, and most other center/center-left politicians and pundits over the last year and a half—presided over the framing of anti-semitism as the act of being critical of Israeli govt actions and supported that govt in a year long punishment campaign to destroy an ethnic group, they normalized the positions that are now being used to deport green card holders and leverage higher ed into submission. Free speech on this issue was fought over last year, and generally, the anti-free speech side won.
It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worse, or even equal in vileness to the current admin, but it is a point worth recognizing. Enshrining Trump, as horrid as he is, as an exception may be comforting, but it removes the broader narrative that brought our present about. If we don’t work to understand this sequence with clear eyed judgment, our resistance to it will likely fail.
Why the fuck is anyone (other than a provocateur) talking about Biden???
GTFO troll.
Tagged as propagandist.
Yeah, they were railing against scientists in another thread, technocrit is braindead
“Scientist” as a general concept doesn’t have an inherent positive or negative value. Some scientists have invented things that saved lives or expanded our understanding of the universe. Others experimented on prisoners, or developed addicting drugs for big pharma. Personally I’d say scientists are more likely to resemble the first, not the second, but what defines the value is not the profession, but the actions they take as individuals.
His comment appeared to describe the issues with approval of scientists as a baseline, when the capitalist system they’re trapped within has other incentives and agendas. It’s a point one can certainly disagree with, but it is a coherent argument.
GTFO troll.
Oh shit, I see now. I wasn’t paying attention to what instance this post was in. I swear I usually know better than to look for a god-faith discussion in a .world comm, but we all slip up here and there. Anyhow, given your very-poor mental model of reality, I really wish you the best in the next couple months, shit is gonna be wild. Listen, I gotta log off for the day and collect my pay from my Russian Intelligence cut-out/handler. dasvidanya comrade!
If you think I’d stoop so low as to read a trolls comment… 😂
GTFO troll
Bro you win, just to see if I you were a bot, I read your post history. That means I had to read your egg post. So like, I lose, you win, that shit literally took years off my life. And I was just guessing when I went with the “I’m a Russian troll farm employee” bit. But looks like that was a correct guess—half your posting is claiming people are Russian propagandists. You do you man, have a good one.
Sorry, technocrit is contextually braindead.
I’d imagine for the same reasons that people study the past and try and understand how events unfold. People still mention the name Chamberlain when discussing the rise of the third reich for instance.
When Snowden released his collection of files way back when, he made the argument that the panopticon that was being built wasn’t being used in the worst way at the time of his decision to whistleblow. But his point was that the construction of such tools could not be justified based on their eventual use by a worse form of American govt.
When the liberal mainstream—and this includes Biden, major media, and most other center/center-left politicians and pundits over the last year and a half—presided over the framing of anti-semitism as the act of being critical of Israeli govt actions and supported that govt in a year long punishment campaign to destroy an ethnic group, they normalized the positions that are now being used to deport green card holders and leverage higher ed into submission. Free speech on this issue was fought over last year, and generally, the anti-free speech side won.
It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worse, or even equal in vileness to the current admin, but it is a point worth recognizing. Enshrining Trump, as horrid as he is, as an exception may be comforting, but it removes the broader narrative that brought our present about. If we don’t work to understand this sequence with clear eyed judgment, our resistance to it will likely fail.