The idea that you have to register to vote is not normal in most democracies.
For example, in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk. You don’t have to register to vote, you just get mail a while before the election with a paper that you take to the voting booth, which is usually a few minutes walk away.
Such a system prevents fraud (which is already a non-issue in the USA, even with its confusing and difficult system), and also makes it easy for as many people to vote.
The goal of voter ID laws is to provide ways to disenfranchise people, by making things slightly harder and create plausible points to not count some ballots.
Here in Italy we have “electoral cards” which are issued once every so many years and get reissued when expired or when you move. You need that AND your ID to vote.
Nobody makes a fuss. Just have to be an adult and remember to check if you lost yours sometime before you have to vote. Seems like a good minimum requirement for voting, being able to hold on a piece of paper.
in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk
That’s pretty disgusting. Are you sure though? Some Americans think this about America too. If true, why not just tattoo subtle ids on people or force facial/other recognition and fingerprinting and iris scanning on everyone. What age do you have to start carrying id?
Yeah that struck me, too. Sounds very weird to an American. Realistically, having an ID on your happens most of the time, but if I didn’t have to drive, I’d leave my wallet home and just carry my phone all the time.
You don’t even need a license on you to drive most places. You just need to be licensed. If you decide to id yourself they can just look your license up. My state has id on phone too though. You could see if yours does.
I didn’t know that was a thing. Looks like it’s a misdemeanor here to be driving without your license physically on you, but I’ll assume that will probably get updated at some point. Probably after I can’t drive any longer…
Both true and not true.
The idea that you have to register to vote is not normal in most democracies.
For example, in the Netherlands you have to carry ID at all times, whether you are voting or just going for a walk. You don’t have to register to vote, you just get mail a while before the election with a paper that you take to the voting booth, which is usually a few minutes walk away.
Such a system prevents fraud (which is already a non-issue in the USA, even with its confusing and difficult system), and also makes it easy for as many people to vote.
The goal of voter ID laws is to provide ways to disenfranchise people, by making things slightly harder and create plausible points to not count some ballots.
Here in Italy we have “electoral cards” which are issued once every so many years and get reissued when expired or when you move. You need that AND your ID to vote.
Nobody makes a fuss. Just have to be an adult and remember to check if you lost yours sometime before you have to vote. Seems like a good minimum requirement for voting, being able to hold on a piece of paper.
That’s pretty disgusting. Are you sure though? Some Americans think this about America too. If true, why not just tattoo subtle ids on people or force facial/other recognition and fingerprinting and iris scanning on everyone. What age do you have to start carrying id?
Yeah that struck me, too. Sounds very weird to an American. Realistically, having an ID on your happens most of the time, but if I didn’t have to drive, I’d leave my wallet home and just carry my phone all the time.
You don’t even need a license on you to drive most places. You just need to be licensed. If you decide to id yourself they can just look your license up. My state has id on phone too though. You could see if yours does.
I didn’t know that was a thing. Looks like it’s a misdemeanor here to be driving without your license physically on you, but I’ll assume that will probably get updated at some point. Probably after I can’t drive any longer…
I am quite sure. I was out with a friend and he got fined for not carrying ID. The legal requirement starts at 16.