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    I recommend trying to transition genders, even if it’s just while traveling or on vacation somewhere.

    People are WAY more likely to listen to a woman than a man saying the same thing. It’s one of the things I’ve been most grateful for since my social transition. People actually listen to me now (caveat: if they see me as a woman and aren’t transphobic).

    I agree about conservative comedians.

    Who said anything about victims? This is about who is seen as aggressive. That’s men and black people. Men are universally seen as the “aggressive” gender in Western society.

    Why do you think white women have the stereotype as damsels in distress? They are seen as nonaggressive and helpless.

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      It sounds very much like mostly live in circles where people would be accepting of who you are, and those people would also be the ones who would make space for and encourage women and minorities.

      The comic is referring to how women too often get called “dramatic”, “too sensitive”, or “hysterical” when they are justifiably mad at something. As far as the powerful people in the western world are concerned women are aggressive and disruptive and men are simply standing their ground. The idea is that sure they’re weak and whatever…until they argue with a man in power or not in power but still very insecure about it. Makes it easy to dismiss them when they’re quiet and easy to dismiss them when they’re loud.

      The damsel in distress is an old stereotype that helps reinforce that from a time when women weren’t allowed to be anything else(and honestly one can argue that we’re still in that time). Like how trans and/or gay people “didn’t exist” but actually it was more because people in power didn’t want them to be remembered. Of course women weren’t speaking up all that much, even today so many stay quiet when abused because they fear retribution, so obviously something must be wrong with them if they break from the stereotype and actually get mad. Male violence is practically celebrated, though, so it takes so much more for society to say they’ve crossed into aggression.

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        Consider: rural Florida.

        Rural Florida is way less transphobic than a place like Cornell.

        I grew up intersex in the former. I arrived at the latter with a beard and transitioned to avoid the wall discrimination that appeared when my boss raped me.

        I’d rather be intersex in Florida than anything but a cis white woman at Cornell.

        At least the rest of NY isn’t nearly as bad as that shithole. Unfortunately Florida seems to have taken a turn as well while I’ve been up here, and I don’t want to end up underwater.

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          So, again, you’re talking about a highly specific community that is way more likely to be filled with young progressives who are still getting through the edgy teen phase but are also far more likely to come from privileged, white backgrounds. I have never argued that there are places which go opposite to the comic but that’s not how society at large behaves.

          How well did you pass in Florida? There’s also the sad fact that people not accepting you will see you as a man and their monkey brains will run with that, especially if you’re bigger and/or have a deeper voice.

          I don’t really know how you’ve just somehow missed the entire, long history of oppression and dismissal of women by whatever excuse fits in the moment.

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            I was very fluid in my gender presentation as a child, and would at times pass as either.

            Privileged, white backgrounds are usually the most bigoted, and least welcoming to people like me, so I feel like we’re talking past each other here.

            I’ve seen more oppression by women than by men in my lifetime.