Last time Martial Law was declared across the entirety of the US was 1862, when Lincoln enacted it, but applied it to specified categories of people (rebels, and those aiding them). But this is straight up Nazi shit.
Who oversees the National Guard if (when) they declare the Democrats cheated (because that will be the orders they’ll be given, in no uncertain terms, on the quiet)?
Trump is no doubt sprouting a chubby little mushroom stalk at the idea.
What legal preventatives are available for the Democrats to stop this shitfuckery before it starts? It’s a grey area whether or not Trump needs Congress or the Senate’s approval to enact Martial Law, but it’s not really been taken to court, AFAIK, to test. Plus, he ignores them as if he’s forgotten they exist, anyway, pulling Executive Orders out of his arse as if they were on a roll of toilet paper he lost up there during a particularly energetic ‘Truth’ Social rant.
Australian here, BTW. So there’s a lot I don’t know about US politics. But I do know Martial Law wouldn’t be good for free and open elections.
What is declaring martial law going to actually do? All it means is the military can legally perform police actions
We already have brown shirts running around, and our military has been maliciously complying with orders intended to terrify the public since Trump returned to office. The funniest part was watching them resist the urge to march during his little parade, you could see their steps start to naturally sync before they went back to walking
Trump can declare martial law if he wants to, but there’s a reason he hasn’t so far. And it’s not because of his good nature, it’s because threatening it makes him feel strong but actually doing it is going to make him look weak
Also just to add onto the military thing specifically, logistics are a bitch and I’m pretty sure even if the entire military was mobilized from the paper pushers to the specialists to the grunts they wouldn’t have enough manpower to occupy LA alone. The logistics wouldve had to be set up months ago so even if they do there’s a solid chance they run out of fuel or food and end up buming around some random town that they aren’t sent to.
The real risk isn’t martial law itself, it’s elected representatives getting killed or something similar. Though honestly speaking that also could trigger a succession crises or otherwise result in de facto loss of federal authority within some states.
Good point… And this is the administration that sent in guard troops just to make them sleep on the ground and left an aircraft carrier at sea for almost a year because they couldn’t be asked to remember them
This administration doesn’t do logistics, and I don’t mean they are bad at logistics. I mean that they deploy troops on a whim and don’t simply skip little details like food and shelter
Last time Martial Law was declared across the entirety of the US was 1862, when Lincoln enacted it, but applied it to specified categories of people (rebels, and those aiding them). But this is straight up Nazi shit.
Who oversees the National Guard if (when) they declare the Democrats cheated (because that will be the orders they’ll be given, in no uncertain terms, on the quiet)?
Trump is no doubt sprouting a chubby little mushroom stalk at the idea.
What legal preventatives are available for the Democrats to stop this shitfuckery before it starts? It’s a grey area whether or not Trump needs Congress or the Senate’s approval to enact Martial Law, but it’s not really been taken to court, AFAIK, to test. Plus, he ignores them as if he’s forgotten they exist, anyway, pulling Executive Orders out of his arse as if they were on a roll of toilet paper he lost up there during a particularly energetic ‘Truth’ Social rant.
Australian here, BTW. So there’s a lot I don’t know about US politics. But I do know Martial Law wouldn’t be good for free and open elections.
What is declaring martial law going to actually do? All it means is the military can legally perform police actions
We already have brown shirts running around, and our military has been maliciously complying with orders intended to terrify the public since Trump returned to office. The funniest part was watching them resist the urge to march during his little parade, you could see their steps start to naturally sync before they went back to walking
Trump can declare martial law if he wants to, but there’s a reason he hasn’t so far. And it’s not because of his good nature, it’s because threatening it makes him feel strong but actually doing it is going to make him look weak
Also just to add onto the military thing specifically, logistics are a bitch and I’m pretty sure even if the entire military was mobilized from the paper pushers to the specialists to the grunts they wouldn’t have enough manpower to occupy LA alone. The logistics wouldve had to be set up months ago so even if they do there’s a solid chance they run out of fuel or food and end up buming around some random town that they aren’t sent to.
The real risk isn’t martial law itself, it’s elected representatives getting killed or something similar. Though honestly speaking that also could trigger a succession crises or otherwise result in de facto loss of federal authority within some states.
Good point… And this is the administration that sent in guard troops just to make them sleep on the ground and left an aircraft carrier at sea for almost a year because they couldn’t be asked to remember them
This administration doesn’t do logistics, and I don’t mean they are bad at logistics. I mean that they deploy troops on a whim and don’t simply skip little details like food and shelter