Delusion isn’t a good look!
Mods would like to have a word with you
So the fact that I can’t choose between mouse and keyboard or controller or change the FOV in the settings makes me a dog I guess.
And pay extra to be able to use the fucking internet on the machine.
As someone currently playing tears of the kingdom at 4k/60fps on my couch with an Xbox elite controller complete with a mod to adjust in game promts to show xbox button: Woof woof motherfucker
guess i got that fuckin dog in me then
I mean, yeah, if you play shitty big studio games.
Consoles are a walled garden. PC is a walled garden too, but to a much lesser extent thanks to Valve and Gog., especially Gog.
In what way is PC a walled garden? The only limitations are based on technical capabilities rather than arbitrary walls.
PC is a walled garden too
How so?
Also called Denuvo.
How does that make PC a walled garden?
PC is a walled garden too
Somewhat disagree. Sure there’s stuff that won’t run on Linux but runs on Mac or win…but the list is getting shorter all the time. And then there’s the wonderful world of emulation, you can add a plethora of walled gardens to your garden with a knee high wall and lots of gates.
Any time an exec talks, it’s to get a market reaction.
You’re best off never listening to what any of them say.
Ha. hahahaha. HAHAHAHA. haaaa.
PC: keyboard & mouse, faster load times, bigger games library, MODS
Person with a financial stake in Sony: “But our graphics are only a little bit worse!”
I honestly can see some of this guys point here and I do think the gap between PC gaming and consoles narrowing down since the past few console generations consoles aren’t pushing graphics over the latest PCs and console exclusive coming to PCs.
With the steam deck, I think that gap has narrowed more now since it provides a easy and accessible price point to PC game on your TV, which may eat into the console market share.
Yeah, they’re quite similar, on one I can play online for free, get tons of indies and demos, play with any controller I want, as well as have access to a bunch of non-gaming features, and on the other… I have to buy giftcards to use the online store because despite the fact that the console is sold here there’s no option to register psn in the country, which means it won’t take my card
Almost unnoticeable :3 /s
Not to mention the PC won’t be a brick when they inevitably shut down servers someday
Or ban your hardware because you wanted full control of your own hardware.
One costs £400 for the whole console, the other costs £800 just for one component.
Just because you can spend £800 on a part doesn’t mean you have to… I just want to.
Taking an extreme example instead of one that is the norm makes it extremely obvious you don’t know what you’re talking about. Go back to your walled playpen and leave the rest of us to our freedom.
There are PCs literally cheaper than the PS5 (Pro), but better. Not to mention, with much more capabilities.
Also, show me a 800€ case (excluding Regner Cooling)
I think OP here has a point though.
The PS 5 pro has been said be roughly equivalent to a 7700 XT with a AMD ryzen 7 3700X and going through PC part picker, using the cheapest parts it’s 936 dollars which is more than the PS5 pro 699 price.
Also, that console buyer isn’t the user that’s going to build a computer themselves either so they’d have to buy a pre built, which would be over 1K. Plus the console person only wants to game and isn’t going to be all that interested in the additional features, there’s is a slightly different use case for consoles.
It’s worth notice few things; the GPU isn’t “a part”, GPU is “THE” part. You can’t find a viable second hand market for ps5 hardware, but you can find second hand market for 3generations of nvidia RTX (20x0, 30x0, 40x0), a AMD, to get all around the ps5 potential.
You can buy an inexpensive PC with integrated GPU and play indie and AAA titles in very low specs.
Ps5 doesn’t come with AAA graphics until… well, you don’t spent AAA prices for each game. How much for 10 AAA games? 70€x10= 700€
On PC isn’t just cheaper: all your games in your library gets the push up to the additional TFLOPS (PS5 require you to buy PS5 games in order to be tailored around the PS5, not ps4). With emulation ROMS (legal if you have the original copy), you get the push up in graphics for all the games you already bought: running that old ps1 game at 8k 60fps? Can’t see why not.
The different use case is why I don’t even really care about consoles, I just don’t want one at all.
Okay.
This type of PCMR regarded takes is what lets NVIDIA charge 950€ for what should essentially be a 5060 card.
Get a steamdeck instead of a PS5 every day of the week but arguing you can build a PC for the price of a PS5 (now selling as low as 400€) is downright regarded…
Look, I’m with you on the steam deck, but you really can build a roughly comparable PC for the same price as a console these days. Granted, it’ll have an older video card that might not include the RTX cores that are apparently mandatory in some new AAA titles, but it’ll still have a playable library of titles that is much larger than the amount of free time humans get to enjoy on this earth.
M8, that’s the wrong argument, you CANNOT do it for 400€-500€. I get that a PC is much more versatile, but as a turnkey solution, the console or steamdeck are downright unbeatable in value right now. GPUs cost stupid money and the PS5 still holds its own against a 6700XT(7700)/4060ti, plus it has resume play like the deck…
I use a PC (9070XT is a wonderful card) but I’m privileged. If I weren’t, I’d be buying a PS5 or a Steamdeck. You can get used PS5 disks for 10-20€, you don’t need to pay to play FTP games online and don’t need internet to play your used disks. It’s overall a far superior option unless your budget is above 1000€ or you have some kind of malformation that only let’s you play with KBM.
The PS5+used games or a Steamdeck in case you already have a library on steam are downright the only smart money options nowadays in the EU.
If you have 1000€ to burn, then you can get a pretty good machine with AM4 and RDNA3 for a reasonable price (7800xt are going for not stupid money normally). I’d still wait for the 9060 to get FSR4 and slap bazzite on a HTPC build and call it a day.
Unbeatable in value… Ehh, really depends what you want to do with it. I don’t care about consoles so I will just disregard them entirely, they don’t run a normal Linux distro.
Steamdeck is great, sure. But if you were looking for low spec desktop gaming you could look at some low spec mini PCs for about half the cost of the steamdeck. You would be able to run a vast amount of games on it just fine. Old hardware might cost less used but will most likely end up costing more in power consumption.
Don’t have the ps5 (had enough of sony with the ps4), but honestly the extra 700€ or whatever it works out for my setup when compared to the console was worth it just for the fact I don’t have to have my headphones cranked to max to hear the dialogue over the fans, let alone everything else that’s just plain better x3
