Hmm. I remember reading on it differently. It may have been that whatever account I read emphasized the hardliners. I’ll have to look into it later, try to figure out if it was just a misfire in my brain or if there’s some basis to what I thought.
Israelis because they demanded an ethnostate and Palestinians because they had been forced off their land that was now supposedly going to be called “israel”
The commenter above even mentions a Jewish majority in Jerusalem. I don’t know the validity of it, but this is evidence of the fact that British Palestine, before being subjected to colonial invasion, was a multicultural society with different religions living within the territory just fine. The destabilization came from zionists moving in with the explicit, stated purpose of killing Palestinians to make room for more Jewish settlers in order to entrench an ethnic Jewish majority in their occupied territory.
The only reason this is an issue is because zionists openly proclaimed they were not willing to live in community with the native population of the land they were trying to colonize. Nobody opposed jews in Israel until zionists showed up committing genocide.
I’m in agreement with the main thrust of the comment, that Zionist settlers were the primary cause for tensions and the eventual breakout of war in the Mandate, and that the Palestinian cause was the more just of the two, but you’re really softballing what is a long history of antisemitism and antisemitic violence in the Levant.
I agree, I’m more just using the comments further up in the thread. I wouldn’t have said the thing about Jerusalem had it not been commented above. I was trying to weave that into my comment to form an argument based on what everyone here seemed to be talking around. I know antisemitism is a real thing that doesn’t just exist because of zionism. I’m not excusing real antisemitism of jews for immaterial reasons, just to be clear.
We seem to be in agreement for the most part, I was hesitant to even put the Jerusalem comment in there but someone had proclaimed it so confidently in the thread I was like alright since yall seem to think this let me just say this
The Israelis were actually very unhappy with it. Both the Palestinian and Israeli sides immediately rejected the partition plan.
You’re talking 1947? The wiki article differs unless I’m misunderstanding you.
It’s been a while since I’ve read about this, so I genuinely may be misremembering. Apologies if so!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#%3A~%3Atext=The+Partition+Plan%2C+a+four%2Cnumbering+twice+the+Jewish+population.
Hmm. I remember reading on it differently. It may have been that whatever account I read emphasized the hardliners. I’ll have to look into it later, try to figure out if it was just a misfire in my brain or if there’s some basis to what I thought.
I mean the hardliners were definitely opposed, and Ben Gurion had misgivings.
Israelis because they demanded an ethnostate and Palestinians because they had been forced off their land that was now supposedly going to be called “israel”
The commenter above even mentions a Jewish majority in Jerusalem. I don’t know the validity of it, but this is evidence of the fact that British Palestine, before being subjected to colonial invasion, was a multicultural society with different religions living within the territory just fine. The destabilization came from zionists moving in with the explicit, stated purpose of killing Palestinians to make room for more Jewish settlers in order to entrench an ethnic Jewish majority in their occupied territory.
The only reason this is an issue is because zionists openly proclaimed they were not willing to live in community with the native population of the land they were trying to colonize. Nobody opposed jews in Israel until zionists showed up committing genocide.
I’m in agreement with the main thrust of the comment, that Zionist settlers were the primary cause for tensions and the eventual breakout of war in the Mandate, and that the Palestinian cause was the more just of the two, but you’re really softballing what is a long history of antisemitism and antisemitic violence in the Levant.
I agree, I’m more just using the comments further up in the thread. I wouldn’t have said the thing about Jerusalem had it not been commented above. I was trying to weave that into my comment to form an argument based on what everyone here seemed to be talking around. I know antisemitism is a real thing that doesn’t just exist because of zionism. I’m not excusing real antisemitism of jews for immaterial reasons, just to be clear.
We seem to be in agreement for the most part, I was hesitant to even put the Jerusalem comment in there but someone had proclaimed it so confidently in the thread I was like alright since yall seem to think this let me just say this
Oh, good! Yeah, I think we’re on the same page.
Hell yeah 😎 hope you have a great weekend, thanks for the honest reply