It had to happen someday. I hope we can weather this and come back stronger in a few years.
EdIt: fixed a typo in the title
It had to happen someday. I hope we can weather this and come back stronger in a few years.
EdIt: fixed a typo in the title
This has to stop.
Hurting Americans won’t teach them jack shit.
Hitler reduced his country to ashes and still had majority support. What makes you think we’re going to get it worse than Nazi Germany being starved and flattened in WW2?
Hitler got lucky. He got into power when the great depression was ending. So the German economy grew fast. Then he very quickly took Poland and even more importantly France. Then during the war, the Nazis made sure to compensate Germans for bombing losses with looted goods.
Trump came into office and crashed the economy.
The people liked Hitler. Shit was actually bad in Weimar Germany, Trump’s support is built on the sand of pure propaganda. That’s where my hope lies.
I can’t predict the future but we are speed running fascism. Hitler would be proud.
If economic pain gets us to stop, good! If it doesn’t, then what will? Why should the world let America continue to cause harm to not only itself but the world? Should we have let Nazi Germany keep going?
Nah man, I’m all in favor of the world stopping us wherever possible. I just don’t think “Inflicting pain” is going to be useful in changing the minds of Americans.
If we’re hoping for the opposition of the world to create the internal discontent to topple our fascist regime, we’re putting our hopes on the wrong thing.
Put it another way - I do want the world to refuse American demands. I just don’t think that the economic pain that it brings to ordinary people will change their minds about how wonderful fascism is. We, the few non-insane Americans, have to convince them, and no amount of eggs being 25$ for a single will get most people to change sides - hardship generally entrenches tribal loyalties, not erodes them.
I see. Sorry I took it the wrong way.
I think that is what we have been trying to do and I think we will continue to do so. Suffering gets people to look for other answers, when they go looking I hope they find ours. If they don’t well, we are headed to a revolution either way. I am not looking forward to a revolution, but I don’t think we can avoid it at this point in time.