• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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        7 days ago

        We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.

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              It’s not obtuse to point out that it’s racist to say that what the Chinese had 5000 years ago was a nation but what the Incas or Cherokees, for instance, had was not.

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                A nation is defined by a collective identity just as much as it is the government. The Native Americans are not the United States.

                You compared the establishment of the PRC to the existence of Chinese people. I did the same with the people in the United States. I’m being respectful of the cultural differences between the European colonialists and the Native Americans. How does that make me racist?