• Triple Iris@lemmy.wtf
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    That’s exactly the problem. I hate the Democrats as much as the Republicans, but the DSA is so full of tankies I want nothing to do with them either. There is literally no party in this country for people like me.

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      4 days ago

      PSL is full of tankies. DSA, at least in my experience, is filled with idealists who don’t seem to connect ‘results’ with ‘actions’, but their heart is generally in the right place.

      Their head, on the other hand, can lead them to bizarre choices like “Unendorsing AOC for being insufficiently pro-Palestine”

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        Her and Bernie have been insufficiently pro Palestine. To the degree of negligible support of the genocide. To the point of distancing themselves from Ilhan Omar. I think they rightfully know they made a mistake in an attempt to be strategic though. Which they are backtracking on now.

        The reason these organizations (DSA/PSL) exist is to move politics to the left. If you criticize them for every attempt to do so. You are literally just contributing to the Ratchet Effect of US politics. That type of milk toast politics from “the left” in the democratic party did not prevent us from getting to where we are today.

        The Democrats did everything to do exactly what you are advocating for and surprise surprise we are here in full out fascism today. Maybe try to listen to those a bit to the left of you. We literally warned that this centrist politics would end this way.

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          The reason these organizations (DSA/PSL) exist is to move politics to the left. If you criticize them for every attempt to do so. You are literally just contributing to the Ratchet Effect of US politics. That type of milk toast politics from “the left” in the democratic party did not prevent us from getting to where we are today.

          Ah yes, moving politics to the left will really be served by turning on one of the leftmost and most pro-Palestine politicians currently in Congress.

          The leftist urge to sabotage the left for being insufficiently left seems to be timeless. Keep putting fascists in power, I guess. It’s not like I can stop you. God knows I tried.

          The Democrats did everything to do exactly what you are advocating for and surprise surprise we are here in full out fascism today. Maybe try to listen to those a bit to the left of you. We literally warned that this centrist politics would end this way.

          What am I advocating for, again?

          Keep accusing everyone who doesn’t think that electing fascists is left praxis of being neolibs. It’s all you lot have at this point.