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I don’t like smartphones. I use a dumbphone.

But this is a wonderful initiative.

  • Luffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    23 days ago

    /e/ has built in privacy features

    /e/ uses a for profit 3rd party for unencrypted backups. That alone should be a big red flag.

    is google-free and runs MicroG

    So it runs google. MicroG just limits what data is sent to google.

    You can even use your apps that you purchased from the PlayStore.

    You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.

    • joel_feila@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      23 days ago

      Well even graphene os still runs a version of Android. So there is still some goggle code in that. But ripping oit google play, amd various goggle services means goggle doesn’t track you with those. Yeah if you still ise gmail and log into toutube every day they will.

      • Luffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        23 days ago

        there is still some goggle code in that.

        But that code is open source, and it has been verified that it dosent track you.

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      23 days ago

      You can do the same with aurora store. That’s available on just about every phone.

      not if the app attempts to verify its license through the play store. you need microg for that, or patch it

    • Prism@feddit.orgEnglish
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      23 days ago

      It a perfectly usable Android for the average user. Everything works out of the boy. If it is not for you, fine. Buy a Pixel.

      • Luffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        23 days ago

        for the average user.

        So we are talking about an average user, who

        • fully understands the appeal of a degoogled Phone
        • Willingly spends extra money for a fairphone
        • is able to migrate away from google services to /e/'s services
        • Is willing and able to troubleshoot any problems that MicroG has
        • is willing to fix not working banking apps
        • but somehow can’t use a simple web installer from Calyx

        Tell me, is this average user in the room with us right now?

        Everything works out of the boy.

        So does (and does not) with Calix or Graphene

        Buy a Pixel.

        I think you don’t get what I’m talking about.

        -It takes a base level of understanding why you would buy a Fairphone (or any degoogled phone)

        • it takes a base level of understanding phones to be able to use a degoogled one
        • If you already have that knowledge, you might as well just take an extra 5 minutes and use the web installer for calyx since it is literally the same AND has less vendor lockin than /e/
        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          22 days ago

          Exactly. Even if I wanted /e/, I would re-flash when I got it, because the reason I want /e/ is because I don’t trust the OEM.

          It’s the same way with desktops, I see zero value in buying a laptop w/ Linux pre-installed because I’m just going to reinstall when I get it anyway.