• GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Let’s say we reset everything today, wipe out everyone’s memory. God will be forgotten, science will still exist. People will figure out science sooner or later.

    • kamen@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      Science laws won’t cease to exist, but if you wipe out everyone’s memory, their knowledge of that science will cease to exist - so they’ll have to figure it out from zero - and there’s no guarantee that there won’t be another placeholder in a sense (i.e. what religions have been historically) for what’s yet to understand.

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        2 days ago

        I think the intent is more “Scientific discoveries could be rediscovered, your One True Religion wouldn’t be.”

    • Leg@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      If I’m being honest, I think people will figure out god too. All it is is a question.

      “Did someone do all this?”

      It’s a reasonable question. Easy to ask, hard to answer. Attempt to identify this variable “someone”, and people will eventually land on some kind of god.

        • Leg@sh.itjust.works
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          3 days ago

          Exactly my point! I was a staunch atheist in childhood, mostly out of rebellion against Christianity. I’m something else now because I asked the question in sincerity. I’m still definitely not a Christian, mind you. But man, the void is cool to ponder about.

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            3 days ago

            In a similar boat, I guess I would be considered a pantheist by definition.

            Staunch atheist growing up, asked myself a similar question. My religious views don’t necessarily change my view of how the world comes to be, or promises anything like eternal salvation; just an acknowledgement that all of this comes from something and by definition you could consider that something to be god.

            Any extrapolations ontop of that would have to be considered faith or conjecture.

            In fact I think most people would find it somewhat depressing to come to a similar conclusion initially, but the questions that come from this pondering have really helped me find a harmony with the universe and I’m appreciative of that

            • Leg@sh.itjust.works
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              2 days ago

              Hey, welcome to the club! Pantheism has helped me find some deceptively obvious truths in life. “As above, so below” being a big one. Meshes remarkably well with science, and if anything it rekindled my enjoyment of science and reality in general. It’s the healthiest relationship I’ve ever had with “religion”.

      • Famko@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        Yes, but the point is that every time god is “rediscovered”, the form of that god changes as does the scripture surrounding that new religion.

        Science, for the most part, wouldn’t diverge from our current understanding of it, because it is ultimately our understanding of the world and its fuctions.

    • superniceperson@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      God will always exist before science, it is necessary to rationalize existence to have any hope of living long enough to develop science.

      If there’s no meaning to what you’re doing, there’s no point in dealing with suffering. Only through extreme alienation from suffering can you start to have a non divine world view.