• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      people will always mess stuff up. Government is just the group of people you have a say in.

      When the public good gets messed up, I’d rather it be by the people I can vote out than by the people who only answer to shareholders.

      I just don’t understand the persistent belief that a profit motive will magically make something more aligned with the public good.

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        Isn’t the foundation a non profit? Why do you think that I think a motive for profit is aligned with the public good? when did I say that?

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          So you want it to be run like it is today, but with less money? Do you think they’re going to spread whatever incompetence you see them having via funding?

          Usually when people celebrate the removal of government from a public service it’s because they think it should be arranged to turn a profit.

          You didn’t list your stance on every issue in your comment so I can only assume that you have the rest of the beliefs that I’ve always seen go with that opinion.

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            No, I believe that non profit NGOs are better than buissinesses and governments because people who believe in the goal works for the thing. Take Linux for instance. Also, I am a left leaning liberal from Iran. Please go and empty your anger from American libertarians somewhere else. Iranian government kills gay people for being gay and I am gay. Do you expect me to be optimistic of governments? All they do in Iran is kill and steal. I wrote it from my perspective as a person living in a shit hole where government is both undemocratic and evil. America isn’t the only place on the internet. Some of us live in other places too.

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              Cool. You wrote an opinion that perfectly matched the opinion of a particular demographic that’s common on the site, and are now very offended that no one knew you were someone less common.
              Which also entirely draws the conversation away from you saying it’s good that the government pulled funding from an organization that’s doing something good because government messes everything up.

              They’re already a non-profit. Why are you upset that they got money from the government? Wouldn’t the ideal to you be an NGO that got money without being under government control, and was therefore free from business influence as well?

              Linux is a great example. It’s backed by a non-profit foundation, under the direction of mostly corporate advocates. That’s what people talk about when they talk about a non-profit being beholden to corporate money.
              The shape of Linux has steadily been pushed towards being more and more focused on server and data center operations, since that’s what the people in charge of funding allocation care about, and that’s what they’ll direct their parent organizations to contribute developers to working on.

              Your government sucks. I get that. It doesn’t mean I don’t expect more from mine, and it doesn’t mean that I reject the notion that I should have say in the management of the things around me.
              The NGO that you envision will do a better job managing the drainage where I live doesn’t answer to me, and I have no recourse if they mess up and flood my house.

              I’d like something like the NGO you envision, but with public accountability. This is often called a “government”.

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                I didn’t know that they were non profit. I thought that it was a government run agency that a whole industry depended on. I didn’t read the article. I am sorry.

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        Well, I’ll let you know that I wrote the comment by my own perspective. I don’t live in a Democratic country and my vote does nothing so I generally have a negative view to any government. Lol

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      Not that I disagree, but putting it in the hands of a foundation that’s beholden to corporate money isn’t exactly going to be the solution to “eventually messing up stuff”.

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        Can’t people start their own foundation? Is there anything blocking the way other than funding? Sorry for being uninformed.