• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    Luckily, this time there are judges, lawyers and civil rights activists as well as the millions of people showing up for protests.

    all of them are doing what they can to hinder the embarrassing horrors of the rump administration.

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      Based on how things are going, those judges might as well be bunnies with how they’re being ignored and nothing happens.

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        “how they’re being ignored and nothing happens.”

        this is flatly incorrect, although it is what rump wants you to believe.

        he’s signing a lot of executive orders, asking his cronies to find loopholes to attack vulnerable groups, but lawyers and judges are managing to stop a lot of those orders and unconstitutional actions.

        there’s no use rolling over while the fight has just begun.

        a lot is legally happening and things would be a lot worse if we didn’t have a lot of brave lawyers and judges on the side of the sane.

        Even if legal and judicial activism isn’t as exciting or getting as much attention as the 5 million strong protests, those legal consequences and judicial developments are saving people’s lives and should be respected.

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      You think that wasn’t the case in Germany too? 50501 and crew are baby stuff compared to the shit 1930s Germans were doing, and they failed anyway. A bunch of one-day parades on weekends just aren’t gonna cut it.

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        “You think that wasn’t the case in Germany too?”

        I see you don’t know what you’re talking about.

        "50501 and crew are baby stuff "

        nice try, Nazi lover.

        but hundreds of legal movements actually stopping the administration and millions of people protesting is not baby stuff, even though it scares you.

        “and they failed anyway”

        roll over and give up like you want to. the heroes will fight while you hide under your bed.

        the protesters, the lawyers and judges and politicians fighting against all of this stuff you’re willing to hide your eyes from are the heroes.

        that’s why my comment was about them and not about cowards.

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          Okay have a friendly middle finger from me, because what the fuck dude? I’m quite obviously saying you need to up the ante yesterday if you don’t want portraits of great leader Trump to be hung in every government building. If you think you’re stopping the administration with your legal actions and parades then you’re fucking delusional. Americans, don’t be like this guy.

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          Where are you getting “roll over and give up” from?

          They said its not going to cut it, which is true, they said its baby stuff, which is true. Do you not understand the severity of what is happening?

          You’re talking about hero’s fighting but you’re describing judges and lawyers, who have publicly been ignored, and occasional protests. 2 protests in february, 1 in march. The people involved are carrying it out Because they don’t think there’ll be consequences. So far there hasnt been.

          What’s the maximum penalty in Texas and California where the planes took off? Every administration member, every ICE member, are they going to just get away with it while people say “well actually, that’s illegal 😏”? Do people just go to work and hope things will work themselves out?

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            “Where are you getting “roll over and give up” from?”

            from the cowardly statement about how nobody should fight back because there’s nothing to be done.

            that’s simply not true.

            dozens of executive orders have been halted by lawyers, judges and civil rights activists.

            all of your anxieties you are pretending are real are false echoes of the other person who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

            you being afraid of fighting back and recommending giving up doesn’t make you brave, it’s pathetic.

            it’s even worse when you attack the people that are fighting for your civil rights every day, despite your selfishness and cowardly propaganda.

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              They didn’t say that though and now you seem to think I did. Which is bizarre. The point is that a couple of protests a month isn’t enough given the severity of the situation and that while blocking a couple of executive orders is better than nothing it’s not sufficient.

              They’re abducting people and sending them to labour camps, openly ignoring people’s rights and judges orders.

              Pointing that out isn’t cowardice, ignoring it is complacency. Showing up a couple of times a month and pretending the rest will be sorted out by someone else is what you’d do if you were trying to trick people into inaction

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          I read the comment above as, “Our Nazis are baby stuff compared to Hitler shit. They legally organized in Germany and still failed. One day a week protests aren’t going to cut it. We need to shut down cities all week, all month, all year until the Nazis in our government are removed.”

          But hey perspectives I guess.

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            Our Nazis are baby stuff compared to Hitler shit. They legally organized in Germany and still failed.

            Not Nazis, *anti-*Nazis. The anti-Nazi movement in Germany before 1933 was a lot more intense than anything Americans are currently doing, and yet this person is patting themself on the back because “Luckily, this time there are judges, lawyers and civil rights activists as well as the millions of people showing up for protests”. Like what the hell do they think the Germans were doing? Sit down twiddling their thumbs?

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              Definitely correct. My brain does not want to interpret 50501 as making anything being maybe a zip code. That’s my bad.

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            you missed or ignored the explicit subjects and objects of their sentence, then.

            “50501 and crew are baby stuff”

            it’s not perspective.

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        US media isn’t exactly giving them a lot of attention. Maybe coz they aren’t breaking and burning and looting and wiping their poo everywhere. If Bernie has an “accident” and AOC and Booker are deported for being brown, that’ll be the end of those protests.

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          World media isn’t giving them attention either. The world seems to have the same opinion as many of us do. You got yourself here you dumb shits. Now get yourself out before we are forced to by heir druphkin and his slack jawed money men.