• SouthernShao@lemmus.org
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    10 days ago

    That’s your opinion.

    The life of a child rapist has no value - that is my opinion.

    There is no such thing as an objective value of human life. The mere notion that you could believe that a child rapist’s life has value is not a respectable opinion to me either, and neither of us are ordained by some god to be the wiser here in what is a respectable opinion.

    Did Hitler’s life have value? How much value, exactly? If killing him would save the lives of others, did his life have less value? If so, then you’re already agreeing that you have a measurement for human value. What about Hitler at 1 years old? 10 years? After he became the Nazi dictator? So Hitler’s life has different value levels depending on his choices? Would you kill someone else if it was the only way to save the life of your child or significant other? If so, then you are also enacting a relative and arbitrary structure of human value onto others. My guess is you already do this but wouldn’t admit it here because it would nullify your previous statement there, which would make you feel foolish.

    So you value the way you want to value and I will value the way I want to value. And if you try to stop me from killing a child rapist who enters my home I will kill you for being evil and trying to stop me from protecting my family from evil, because in my view, that renders you too, as evil.

    But I’m not about to go seek you out for your values. I would only use violence to protect myself, my family, or the innocent. As a good person, I believe I should not be made to suffer the existence of a rapist or murderer. Goodliness and weakness are not an intrinsic combination.

    Also, gods don’t exist, so if your argument is related to some kind of god-being, just know I am **always **going to throw your argument out the window.

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        10 days ago

        Except that it is, and you are patently wrong.

        Which life has more value? Hitler, or your child’s? If given the choice, would you have killed Hitler to stop what he did?

        Would you kill a child rapist to stop them from raping a child? What if it was the only way to stop them?

        You’re stuck. If you say you Hitler has the same value, you wouldn’t have killed him, you wouldn’t kill the child rapist, etc., then you’re either deluded, trolling, stupid, or evil, but if you agree you would then you’re admitting that human value is not only subjective, but that you yourself personally and wholly understand that all human life has not only subjective value and relative value, but also kills your statement entirely.

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          10 days ago

          Neither

          I wouldn’t have killed him, more like non-lethal options

          Killing them is NEVER the only way to stop them

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            10 days ago

            But what if it is? What if they look you in the eye and tell you that unless you kill them, they will go do it again and again and again? What if people tried to stop him and he killed them and did it again? How much of a risk do we take until someone simply puts him down? Your use of absolutes makes you look incredibly naive.