The whole point of the fuckcars movement is that we want public transit to be good enough that cars are not necessary. Yes, right now, in North America (with a few exceptions) you need a car, even if your city has public transit. And that’s awful.
Have you been to the country? No bus is going to take you to BFE. And even if they did, they would have to travel to multiple BFE all in diffrent directions.
There’s waaaay too much green out here for public transit to be a thing. Our schools had buses, and most of them weren’t full. But there were kids who had to get on the bus 2 hours before school because they were that far out there. And that wasn’t even the worst of em.
Edit: every friend I’ve had come over from Europe has been flabbergasted at how much free land we have. They genuinely don’t comprehend just how much land we have just being land.
I’m not talking about the country. I’m talking about every city in Canada except Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. I live in a major municipality in Canada. There’s a bus stop basically at the end of my driveway. But the bus comes every hour, doesn’t run very late, and takes half an hour to go downtown. So if I miss a bus, I’m 90 minutes from reaching downtown. Or… I could walk, which takes 30 minutes, no matter when I plan to leave. Or I could drive which takes 5 minutes.
If public transit is slower than walking, it’s not practical, and it’s not a replacement for cars.
When I lived in Toronto, as bad as their system is compared to European systems, there was never any question. If it was close, walking was faster. If it was still in the city, transit was faster. Even though I had access to a car, driving was never a realistic option, because the other options were actually convenient.
The whole point of the fuckcars movement is that we want public transit to be good enough that cars are not necessary. Yes, right now, in North America (with a few exceptions) you need a car, even if your city has public transit. And that’s awful.
Have you been to the country? No bus is going to take you to BFE. And even if they did, they would have to travel to multiple BFE all in diffrent directions.
There’s waaaay too much green out here for public transit to be a thing. Our schools had buses, and most of them weren’t full. But there were kids who had to get on the bus 2 hours before school because they were that far out there. And that wasn’t even the worst of em.
Edit: every friend I’ve had come over from Europe has been flabbergasted at how much free land we have. They genuinely don’t comprehend just how much land we have just being land.
I’m not talking about the country. I’m talking about every city in Canada except Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. I live in a major municipality in Canada. There’s a bus stop basically at the end of my driveway. But the bus comes every hour, doesn’t run very late, and takes half an hour to go downtown. So if I miss a bus, I’m 90 minutes from reaching downtown. Or… I could walk, which takes 30 minutes, no matter when I plan to leave. Or I could drive which takes 5 minutes.
If public transit is slower than walking, it’s not practical, and it’s not a replacement for cars.
When I lived in Toronto, as bad as their system is compared to European systems, there was never any question. If it was close, walking was faster. If it was still in the city, transit was faster. Even though I had access to a car, driving was never a realistic option, because the other options were actually convenient.