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By all criteria, this a concentration camp. Not “concentration camp” as rhetorical inflation, or emotionally manipulative shorthand, or edgy metaphor—but as in: literally.
As in: detention without trial, state control, inhumane living conditions, forced labor, dehumanization, brutal violence, isolation from accountability, psychological torture, and—by every available logical extension—murder.
That last one we can’t yet verify in the strict evidentiary sense, but the circumstances suggest it like smoke suggests fire, and they are already trying to hide their actions and deny what is occurring.
lol find a better picture, The guys in this picture that you put up are all criminals
How do you know that with certainty if they never had a trial or any kind of criminal proceedings?
These are not the people in the picture that were sent over by The Trump administration. These fully tattooed from head to toe with gang signs on them are all criminals that deserve to be there. If you are not from El Salvador or live there or been there Your opinion doesn’t matter.
Gotcha, if that’s true the article author is being a bit misleading then… do you happen to have a link to anything else I could read to learn more? I’m from Scotland and I don’t expect my views to matter, I wasn’t actually sharing an opinion, just asking a question 😅 If you’re from the area I’m sure you know a lot more about it than me!
If you have a chance and time watch a documentary on YouTube called la Vida Loca Directed by Christian Poveda from France, I’m not telling you to watch it to show you that gangs are bad because the last person I tried to tell them to watch this because I wanted them to see what the average El Salvadoran person lived before Bukele cleaned the country up. It’s a really good documentary unfortunately the director was killed in the hands of the same gang members that allowed him to film them. It’s crazy because these people on these websites they form an opinion and when you try to enlighten them they don’t wanna hear that or see they just wanna believe their opinion. And they downvote you when the same losers have never even stepped foot in El Salvador. When I tried to tell someone to watch the documentary the small minded person that they are said “I wasn’t born yesterday I know gangs and cartels are bad” but that wasn’t the reason I Told them to watch it, that’s common sense that cartels and gangs are violent
Hey guys we found the warden here.
You are literally using a picture with guys covered in MS 13 and 18 street tattoos. If you want to stand up for the people that have been sent there lately by the Trump administration pick a better fucking picture because you’re literally trying to get people to agree with you but you’re putting up a picture of literal fucking rapist and fucking murderers you piece of fucking shits. Feel bad for the people that lost loved ones in the hands of these Terrorist. Because that’s literally what they are they are terrorist that terrorize their communities for years, These are the same guys that would kill a hot dog vendor for selling a hot dog to the opposite rival gang. These are the same guys that would pick up girls And gang raped them and then killed them once they were done with them. It’s fucking ignorant of you to think that you know what’s going on when you don’t know at all whatsoever and it’s pathetic. And this is coming from an El Salvadoran
If you ever wanna stop being ignorant and actually learn something watch “La vida loca” directed by Christian Poveda on YouTube, and you will see what life was really like when these guys were in the street terrorizing their community. Also they killed the director at the end
the right has gotten very good at public opinion chess. they keep putting us in checkmate situations where we have to defend the villains in order to oppose their authoritarian methods. most leftists and liberals fall for it - hook, line, and sinker.
i think it’s time we stopped playing these games, flipped the table, and put a knife to their throats.
you have a point. we can’t defend our institutions by making heroes out of what the public sees as villains. we can, however, say “yeah, most of these guys probably are violent criminals but that doesn’t invalidate the rule of law and the right of due process”. the former will not help change public opinion, but the latter might.
but i’m a bit of a paradox. i happen to agree with trump’s methods. i still see him as a dangerous narcissist, but if i could take that same power and use it to deport evangelicals, capitalist sociopaths, and conservatives, i absolutely would.
it’s a war. we just have to win it. by any means necessary.
NAH bro free the guys!
But seriously these people are idiotic to use pictures like this where these guys are literal scumbags. If you have a chance watch La Vida Loca documentary on YouTube. They even killed the director that they allowed to film them at the end
not gonna do that. i don’t need to be convinced that cartels and gangs are dangerous and brutal. i wasn’t born yesterday.
my question to you is where do you draw the line at who gets due process and who doesn’t?
This is not about due process this is about the picture you guys are using to try to prove your Point. Not one person in El Salvador would Agree to what you are trying to prove by using this picture. Also a majority of these guys in this jail already went through the court process. Look it up, But you’re probably not gonna do that. A lot of of the people in this new jail were already convicted criminals that were In old overcrowded jails that were ran by the gangs. There’s videos of them partying with hookers in the jails Before this one was built. El Salvador didn’t just build a new jail and decide to go find a bunch of people on the street and put them in there.
Also the documentary isn’t for you to pick and choose sides it’s actually a really good documentary
i never made any assertions about the documentary. i just don’t want to watch it.
the way you keep saying ‘you guys’ is concerning though. are you a conservative?
No I’m an independent voter that has voted Democrat going back to Obama when I was first able to vote, Until this last election