i wonder what y’all have to say about this

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    People who are happy to be alive does not “pay” for bringing someone unhappy into existence.

    How are you evaluating happiness absent existence? Hell, how are you evaluating happiness, period?

    Even if your child is perfectly content being alive throughout their life, they did not choose to be here.

    How do you reach that conclusion? We’re all just bits of matter, assembled in various shapes and configurations.

    He was here before he was born as matter. He’ll be here after he’s dead as matter. All life has given him is senses to perceive his surroundings and agency to affect them.

    Are you arguing a given child would be better off inert? Are blindness, deafness, and paralysis virtues?

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      18 hours ago

      How do you reach that conclusion? We’re all just bits of matter, assembled in various shapes and configurations.

      Because… inert matter doesn’t make decisions…

      How are you evaluating happiness absent existence? Hell, how are you evaluating happiness, period?

      As long as you accept the premise that some people are happy and some people are unhappy, I don’t think measuring it for precision matters.

      Are you arguing a given child would be better off inert? Are blindness, deafness, and paralysis virtues?

      They wouldn’t be a child if they were never born to begin with.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        18 hours ago

        Because… inert matter doesn’t make decisions…

        Why is that good?

        As long as you accept the premise that some people are happy and some people are unhappy, I don’t think measuring it for precision matters.

        The claim is that people who experience unhappiness shouldn’t exist. Why would I accept a precisionless “unhappy” on these terms?

        They wouldn’t be a child if they were never born to begin with.

        They would still exist as something. Children don’t appear ex nihilio.

        Your argument isn’t for non-existence. It is for non-sentience.