So, as a moderator for !manga@ani.social, I have been trying to keep tabs on how this has been developing over on reddit (especially /r/manga).
I believe that if a publisher were to request content or posts to be removed, it would most likely be directed to the instance admin. In my community’s case, that would be @hitagi@ani.social. It would then be up to them whether to or how to remove the content. If it isn’t a formal DMCA or if they are in a jurisdiction not bound by the DMCA, then they could always choose not to take action. If they did decide to remove the content, then the next decision facing them would be how to remove it.
One option would be to “remove” it (no different than a community moderator removing things like spam). This action would federate out to other lemmy servers and remove it there as well. The other option that is available to instance admins is to “purge” it. This removes the content from the local server, but does not federate that removal out to other instances. So, the offending content would still be available to the rest of the fediverse since it was federated out and the publisher would have to go play whack-a-mole with every instance out there. The purge option would definitely be the malicious compliance route.
I doubt they would care about Lemmy, there is hardy anyone on manga@ani.social compared to /r/manga. Posts of One Punch for example have over a 100 comments while on manga@ani.social there is no comments. If manga@ani.social becomes popular they will probably go after it, now it is probably not worth the hassle.
Ah yes, the classic move to discord. I’m sure discord is much more tolerant of piracy than reddit.
And calling out their plan to explicitly keep bypassing copyright and directing to where they plan to continue doing it.
If Kodansha already has eyes on your subreddit, they’ll see this post and go after the Discord too. It’s only a matter of time.
Don’t make it this easy for them.
If only there were an anonymous, distributed, peer-to-peer network where things like this could be hosted easily. cough i2p
So say we have an open WiFi guest network at work that’s got the general nanny filter on for “bad things in the UK workplace”.
But say I brought and plugged in an old phone and started an i2p instance even thou it’s going to be heavily firewalled, you reckon it would still help out?
Also, no need to mutter about i2p and I think with this current climate it’s a sensible thing to start help out with
If only there were websites that don’t care /s.
I do wonder how Lemmy would be impacted by an influx of DMCA complaints. Instances would have to delete the content but I don’t think they have the manpower to do so.
Instances like dbzer0 could also get taken down by complaining to the VPS provider if the instance operators wouldn’t comply.
Our provider doesn’t care for dmcas
First of all thank you for hosting this instance.
PS: Irrelevant rambling without a point below.
I don’t know how French/EU equivalents to DMCA take down requests work and how trigger-happy OVH is. Given services like real-debrid still operate, it won’t be as bad. From what I’ve heard Hetzner is quite strict when it comes to complaints, so I assume OVH is better.
It’s good that you don’t allow direct linking to pirate content. It seems to me that on most platforms communities are closed prematurely to avoid further annoyances/complaints, even if they follow the law (like here).
db0 addressed this recently. The fun thing about the fediverse is that content is cached on all the different servers. In the case of ActivityPub it’s potentially thousands, and not even clear which ones it is or how many. So the complainant would have to go and order DMCA takedowns for each individual server. So the db0 server could be shut down completely but all of its’ content would still be readily accessible.
Not sure of the legality of “making an example” of a specific server like db0. I think they probably have to make a DMCA request and then prove that you failed to comply but I’m not a lawyer.
We’re not American, and as far as I know luxembourg doesn’t have dmca laws. But we anyway don’t allow direct linking to pirated content. Only discussion of said content and linking to tlds
What about your DNS provider?
Typically it takes a lot more for dns to be lost. Let’s hope it never comes to that, especially since we don’t actually allow links to pirate content
All out of sympathy for lost souls still milling about reddit.
Corpos gonna corpo and censorship regime is just one tool of oppression
