• TheRealKuni@midwest.social
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    9 hours ago

    The 2A is needed now more than it’s been in decades.

    The second amendment was never intended to be used by citizens against the government. That is a lie cooked up by pro-gun people purposely misinterpreting history.

    The second amendment exists because Madison didn’t want a large standing federal army, fearing it would put too much power into the hands of the federal government. Instead he wanted the nation’s defense to be handled by state militias.

    That’s why it specifically talks about militias.

    He changed his tune after the war of 1812 showed him the value of a standing federal army.

    The government had no intention of being overthrown by its citizens if they decided the government was tyrannical. They put down multiple armed rebellions in the early years of the nation.

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      8 hours ago

      Well according the the people alive when Madison created the 2nd amendment, you’re incorrect and it was also in there to be a checksum against the federal government. But I’m sure you’re interpretation is more correct than theirs, right?

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        8 hours ago

        I could very well be wrong. I’m not a constitutional scholar, only repeating what I’ve learned and read. Can you show me these contemporary sources?

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            8 hours ago

            Right, those were talking about the ability of the states to be a check on federal power. Because military power would be in the hands of state militias.

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              7 hours ago

              M9stly referring to this, for anyone else who stumbles across this thread: “the Second Amendment was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution, according to College of William and Mary law professor and future U.S. District Court judge St. George Tucker in 1803 in his great work Blackstone’s Commentaries: With Notes of Reference to the Constitution and Laws of the Federal Government of the United States and of the Commonwealth of Virginia, as the “true palladium of liberty.” In addition to checking federal power, the Second Amendment also provided state governments with what Luther Martin (1744/48–1826) described as the “last coup de grace” that would enable the states “to thwart and oppose the general government.””

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                7 hours ago

                Yes. A check against Federal power because state militias would be the military might. A “palladium of liberty” for those who believed centralized power was dangerous to liberty.

                Ask Shay’s Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion about whether the government would cede power when confronted by armed citizens (as opposed to state militias).