More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful

  • puntyyoke@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    A few folks have mentioned that these charts

    1. conflate liberal/conservative with the dominant left/right parties in these nations
    2. does not include people who do not identify with one of those dominant parties
    3. have some somewhat unreliable stats magic behind them

    A lot of young men in the US are reporting themselves as “not a Democrat or Republican”, and that’s causing a lot of this proportional shift. I would bet that characterizes a lot of folks on this site who are not conservative.

    https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/3/13/24098780/politics-gender-divide-generation-z-youth-men-women

    https://www.allendowney.com/blog/2024/01/28/is-the-ideology-gap-growing/

    • krashmo@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Exactly. I would be almost as upset with being classified as a liberal or a Democrat as I would be a conservative.

      • kautau@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        At the same time I know many people (my brother included) that claim to be “independent” because they think that the trump camp is somehow outside the conservative camp, and therefore respond “independent” on polls. Because they think “I’m not democrat or conservative, I just want to drain the swamp” and then support trump, who is literally a swamp.

  • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    7 months ago

    shit sucks which primes people for radicalization and The Algorithm basically pushes men to be chud shitheads (which doesn’t really work for women because who is going to listen to “become a baby machine” and think YEAH, BET)

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      7 months ago

      You’d be surprised, until they encounter what that actually means and will mean for them specifically - some conservative women trick themselves into thinking they’ll be given an exemption. Or they really just don’t what it means until someone like Crowder is brow-beating them and not letting them leave

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Then you get the women who hate ethnic minorities, foreigners, sex-positivity, other religions that aren’t their own denomination, and LGBTQ+ people more than they hate sexism. They will put up with misogynistic bullshit if it means they get to be racist and homophobic.

        There’s probably more of the former, though. Like you say a lot of them trick themselves into “being the exception,” often because their partner is nice to them specifically.