• Bunnylux@lemmy.world
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    Do you actually know anyone suicidal? They usually don’t tell people. They often don’t know themselves. They changed their mind. They’re depressed. They’re anxious. They’re not well. They die suddenly. Everyone is surprised. That is how it goes.

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      How often do suicidal people reach out to a bunch of their friends and family just to specifically tell them they are NOT going to commit suicide?

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        That didn’t happen. One grieving family friend said that he said that. John Oliver would have a field day with you people lol. Boeing has hurt and killed a lot of people. They do this like corporations do - by cutting staff, evading regulation, buying politicians. Boeing is liable for great harm. But focusing on these conspiracies rather than getting to the root of the problem – that capitalism enables great harm by eroding our society – isn’t helping.

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          These conspiracies come as a direct result of capitalism. Everybody can plainly see when Boeing murders whistleblowers that it is because of money/their image.

          Failure to talk about these conspiracies is a failure to point out the specific failures of capitalism.

          Also I assume you actually meant conspiracy and not conspiracy theory.

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          So Corporations will break any law for profit besides murder?

          I trust the guy’s family more than the police lol, so do most people

          You’re really bending over backwards to push this narrative.

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            22 hours ago

            What “narrative”? It’s on the Wikipedia page. It’s not a narrative, it’s what happened. Like… I really don’t care that much about this specific case. It’s more about the principle, the erosion of truth, the meaninglessness of facts. It’s honestly the same type of thinking that makes right wing conspiracists and I don’t want to capitulate to it. Focusing on a a salacious and improbable event downplays the real “evils” of capitalism, the smaller but cumulative things: the selfishness, the greed of everyday people and how profit motivated corporations enhance and multiply that. Contrapoints (Natalie Wynn) just did a fantastic video on conspiracies that touches on all three points. I would recommend it to anyone.

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              Focusing on a a salacious and improbable event downplays the real “evils” of capitalism

              That’s the thing. These events are not just “salacious and improbable”. These events are actually happening in front of our eyes and they need to be taken seriously. These events are happening as a direct result of capitalism, and not calling it out will just allow the right to set the narrative on those issues.

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                6 hours ago

                I agree - corporations killing people 1) does happen and 2) is bad. But in this case, it didn’t happen. I mean… You cant just go around making stuff up. If evidence comes out or is discovered later that shows different, then I will change my mind. That is scientific thinking. Because I don’t have an angle.

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        1 day ago

        How did “one family friend named Jennifer who can’t believe it” turn into “all his family and friends”