I don’t get why a such law took so long, but late is better than never.
This is a new article from 1800, right? right?
1800, 2000BC, does it matter? We are known for repeating our behaviour.
Where is the loop hole? Emancipation?
Abolish Marriage.
We don’t need the state or religious authorities dictating our relationships.
Amen, brother.
Need to do something for stuff like inheritance and visitation rights that’s currently coupled (pun intended) to marriage.
National Emergency Contact Database. Sign a piece of paper together to make each other emergency contacts in the eyes of the govt. have as many as you’d like!
Well in my ideal view we would abolish the state and abolish capitalism, so those things aren’t too much of an issue.
That would solve many problems, but stuff like “Who gets to visit you in the hospital?” and “who gets your personal belongings when you expire?” might need some thought. There are likely easy to solve, but still require some thought.
A will amd Power of Attorney do those without marriage. I’ve been with my partner for 15 years, unmarried, and haven’t had a problem with it yet.
I was in a car accident and spent two weeks unconcious in the ICU, so its not like its untested either.
True but a will and power of attourney are also more complicated and expensive to get
Cmopared to standard marriage, are they any better or just extra steps
Nope, you can get the forms online for free.
That’s the role of the de facto union. But the civil union usually grants you special conditions, along with your spouse.
Oh USA the land of liberty lol…
Wow, MISSOURI did that???
MISSOURI??!??
I’ll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri.
I’m thinking the tipping point has been reached, the pendulum is now moving away from conservatism, and we’ll see little upsets like this as rural states begin to shift back. Missouri is facing a hell of a medicaid cut which they can’t afford, that may ripple for a while.
Unfortunately they have short memory spans but eventually they’ll flip for a generation, like the New Deal era. People will just give up on MAGA and go the other way.
No they wont. They’ll continue to blame others and refuse to accept responsibility. There will be no pendulum swing because they will keep reinforcing themselves through radical fascist media expansion.
About fucking time you backasswards rednecks
Republican men are probably throwing a fit that they won’t be able to legally groom and rape children for “family values” anymore
Still allowed in a lot of US states
The year is 2025…
And America is still this ass backwards.
Least some good news for once.
Checked if this was an Onion type article. So glad it isn’t.
I really hate Americans. Every single patriotic us thing just makes me retch. They are the worst creatures on this planet with some unfounded god complex and silly strong men culture that just doesn’t want to die
The most American series I watched recently - 1923. Jesus I barely made through this shit because my mother had birthday and she likes it for some unfathomable reason.
I have a feeling that this tv series perfectly encapsulates the murica mindset and I cannot hate it enough. The showrunner guy is somehow impervious to any criticism some kind of local macho god for some reason even though the show is coming apart at the seams under the shallow cover of superficial sentimental bs.
You guys should totally isolate on this continent of yours and don’t leave it at all. No one wants you.
You guys should totally isolate on this continent of yours and don’t leave it at all.
Unfortunately, America doesn’t work as a project without endless territorial expansion. So we’re happy to close our borders, but we’re never going to stop demanding your tribute on pain of getting hit with our bombs.
This is really mean so I’m reporting it please talk to an adult about this, it’s not a good way to view other people
Um, that’s great and everything, but it’s still too young. Your brain doesn’t finish developing until you’re 25, and the brain is the part of the body you’re concerned about when you’re making laws about when somebody should be able to make a big decision like getting married.
This isn’t true. The study you are referring to was simply funded to that point in time and there has not been a repeat study or any sort of extended work on that front, that’s simply when the study stopped. The more likely explanation is that your brain never stops developing. Also, the concept of child and adult are constructs, at some point we are old enough to think and act on our own and there is no universal marker for that change in rationality and behavior or any bar for where that divide line is drawn. The idea that people shouldn’t be allowed to practice autonomy until 25 is just coddling and absurd.
Which study are you talking about? This is the mainstream view of neuroscientists.
Here’s what I got from MentalHealthDaily (sources at the bottom of the article):
Neuroscientists largely agree that the human brain hasn’t fully developed until (at least) the mid-20s.
It may seem logical that those aged 18 to 25 are completely mature, the brain still is maturing – specifically the area known as the “prefrontal cortex.” Changes occurring between ages 18 and 25 are essentially a continued process of brain development that started during puberty. When you’re 18, you’re roughly halfway through the entire stage of development. The prefrontal cortex doesn’t have nearly the functional capacity at age 18 as it does at 25.
This means that some people may have major struggles with impulsive decisions and planning behavior to reach a goal. The brain’s reward system tends to reach a high level of activation during puberty, then gradually drifts back to normal activation when a person reaches roughly the age of 25. Adults over the age of 25 tend to feel less sensitive to the influence of peer pressure and have a much easier time handling it.
The research didn’t continue after the participants reached the age of 25, the study was ended. We only have data up to that point, there hasn’t been a similar study done that kept the research and observations conducted past the age of 25. We only have information from one study that brought the gathered information to that point, we don’t know how the brain continues to develop from beyond that point. To me, that doesn’t translate to brain development stops at 25, it just means we only have collected data from one study that documented the first 25 years of brain development and activity of its research participants, we can’t say we know what the path of brain development is after that because we simply don’t have the data.
Okay, I’ve got the consensus of neuroscientists on the one side, and then I’ve got a rando on Lemmy who can’t even cite a study on the other. You gotta give me more to go on here.
Also, they aren’t saying that the brain stops changing at 25; they’re saying that it’s mature at 25. These are two different things. The rest of your body changes as you get older, so it would make sense that your brain does, too.
The important part is the prefrontal cortex isn’t fully developed until your mid-20s. That’s why you make a lot of rash and stupid decisions when you’re 18-25.
I was a bit out of date, but thanks for the article, it was helpful. It’s a journalism piece interpreting multiple scientific studies, though, not a study. If you check the sources on the multiple actual studies they are referencing in it you will notice many of those studies observed that development and “maturity”, whatever that qualifies as, continues into your 30’s on average, the age of 25 is a pretty ambiguous marker for anything in the information provided from studies and there is no evidence that there is any kind of universal rate for everyone as far as what age your grey matter starts to decline in development, but the curve is well over 25. I still stand on my opinion that autonomy should be respected well before you’re 25.
Technically you’re right, but there’s a whole load of things where you might be concerned about brain development. Enlisting, alcohol and tobacco consumption and taking out any sort of credit including student loans, comes to mind. I think actually you’ll agree with me that those should all be restricted to 25+.
Now where things get less clear is voting. Why should people under 25 be allowed to vote if we don’t consider them adult enough to make their own decisions in a lot of other cases? You could easily make the case that someone who can’t yet decide their own future, should not be able to decide on the future of the nation.
The impact of this would be that the group of voters that has the most reason to care about the future, might lose their voice entirely. Maybe it’s not a particularly active group, but they should be heard like anyone else.
This is one reason I don’t think it’s a great idea to start raising age minimums for things far above 18 based on the brain development argument.
Not to mention that marriage is a phase, they shouldn’t really be letting people get married. Do you even know what those wedding cakes are made of? And what if someone bullies you?
Baby steps, It’s Missouri.
I got married at 21, to a woman who was 30. Worst mistake of my life.
Robyn DeCradle
Anecdotally I am tending to agree but I have no scientific background. I feel like laws like this can be studied and then back by verification
Bet Republicans are furious
Two questions:
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What was the age before?
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What’s the lowest age permitted in all the States?
It was 16 but only with parental consent and only with a marriage partner 21 or younger.
16 with parental consent is quite common. Mississippi I think is 15. Some allow marriage younger than this (some have effectively no minimum age), but with the requirement for consent to also be sought through the courts.
In many it used to be something like with parental permission. Basically child trafficking enshrined in law.
Human trafficking was the foundation of our great nation. Hell, there’s still a lively Mail Order Bride market out of the States.
We can’t stop. We won’t stop.
I’ll be curious to see if this law survives contact with the courts. Perhaps we’ll even see destination weddings happening on the other side of the Arkansas border.
Dammit man, this hits close to home. I’m from Missouri and we used to talk shit on Arkansans all the time. Now I’ve lived in Arkansas for over a decade and can confirm… there are some sketchy parts. Lol, I need to escape.
I used to live in Louisiana. Never felt uncomfortable there but the few times I went into Mississippi or Alabama terrified me. You’re looking around at swamp land as far as the eye can see and realize that it would not be hard to hide a body.
Well, you can always come down and hang with me in Texas. nervous laughter
scrambling to hide from the Abbott gestapo patrol
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