Hey people of Perchance and to whoever developed this generator,

I know people keep saying, “The new model is better, just move on,” but I need to say something clearly and honestly: I loved the old model.

The old model was consistent.

If I described a character — like a guy in a blue jumper, red jeans, and purple hair — the old model actually gave me that. It might sound ridiculous, but at least I could trust it to follow the prompt. When I used things like double brackets ((like this)), the model respected my input.

And when I asked for 200 images, the results looked like the same character across the whole batch. It was amazing for making characters, building stories, and exploring different poses or angles. The style was consistent. That mattered to me. That was freedom.

Now with the new model, I try to recreate those characters I used to love and they just don’t look right anymore. The prompts don’t land. The consistency is gone. The faces change, the outfits get altered, and it often feels like the model is doing its own thing no matter what I ask.

I get that the new model might be more advanced technically — smoother lines, better faces, fewer mistakes. But better in one way doesn’t mean better for everyone. Especially not for those of us who care about creative control and character accuracy. Sometimes the older tool fits the job better.

That’s why I’m asking for one thing, and I know I’m not alone here:

Let us choose. Bring back the old model or give us the option to toggle between the old and the new. Keep both. Don’t just replace something people loved.

I’ve seen a lot of people online saying the same thing. People who make comics, visual novels, storyboards, or just love creating characters — we lost something when the old model was removed. The new one might look nice, but it doesn’t offer the same creative control.

This isn’t about resisting change. This is about preserving what worked and giving users a real choice. You made a powerful tool. Let us keep using it the way we loved.

Thanks for reading this. I say it with full respect. Please bring the old model back — or at least give us a way to use it again.

please

  • Zeiz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    25 days ago

    Calm down, you’re rushing and probably don’t know how to use the tool. Here’s how I did it:

    1. I converted your image into a prompt using the website: https://imageprompt.org/image-to-prompt
    2. I took the prompt and put it in perchange;
    3. I defined the casual style;
    4. I chose an image to copy the new prompt and seed;
    5. I generated variations of the same seed, slightly changing the prompt;

    Will it be perfect? Of course not. The images would still need to go to the “workbench” as has always been done. But the quality is really much better with the new model. You can generate several times until you find the facial features closest to what you want. You might spend about 20 minutes generating images repeatedly, but once you find the seed, you can manipulate it however you want.

    Prompt + seed: A casual photo of Close-up portrait of a woman with long, dark hair. Latina, 25-35 years old. She is wearing a cream-colored, lace-trimmed top. The top has a sweetheart neckline that accentuates her upper body. A silver chain with a dark, rectangular pendant hangs around her neck. Her expression is serious and focused, with direct eye contact. Her gaze is slightly backwards, suggesting contemplation or introspection. Her lips are smiling, and her facial features are softly lit, highlighting her natural beauty. Soft, natural lighting creates subtle shadows and highlights across her face and upper body. The background is a dark, muted brown tone, providing a stark contrast to her light-colored top. The image’s perspective is directly in front of the subject, creating a feeling of intimacy and personal connection. The composition is centered, focusing the viewer’s attention solely on her. The overall mood is introspective and thoughtful, with a classic realism style… It’s a casual photo. (seed:::172525303)

    • Savonard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      25 days ago

      Calm down, you’re rushing and probably don’t know how to use the tool. Here’s how I did it:

      Thanks, it’s a valuable suggestion and I’ll try to use the tool you linked, but as you can see the “problem” remains. But I would still like to make a premise that I didn’t do before, I’m enthusiastic about certain aspects of Flux, the level of detail, the general quality, the precision, these are important things, you lose the wonder of the AI ​​that seems to “interpret” your command and other fascinating and artistic things about Stable Diffusion, but on some things it is incredible, and yet as you can see although what you showed me is much better than what I have ever managed to do up to this point, not even remotely did Flux manage to reproduce the protruding nose of the character, by latina woman he means a Mexican apparently and not an Italian, or a Jewish for example. I don’t know how to use the tool and you are absolutely right about that, I’m looking for discussions on the StableDiffusion subreddit and around the net, I ask ChatGPT to make me some promtps that never work, I’m trying, but I have every doubt in the world that I will be able to find a seed that matches my needs and once again if I tell Flux make me an aquiline nose, with a hump, Flux can’t do it.

      • Zeiz@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        25 days ago

        In this case, you have 3 options:

        1. Without using seeds, generate batches of images several times with the same prompt until you find the face you are looking for;
        2. Change the prompt slightly to include “mixture of Mexican and Italian” or something like that; or
        3. put the name of a famous person in the prompt.

        I always try to choose option 2. Both the current and previous models always gave my characters a unique touch. I’m still learning a lot, and this new model has also brought me frustration. However, for those who like to find patterns to write prompts, the previous model was extremely bad and unpredictable. The current model has greatly reduced this problem and it was then easier to understand the AI’s behavior.

        • Savonard@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          24 days ago

          Thank you very much, I’m trying and to be honest I’m getting much better results thanks to your advice. Hopefully things will improve in the future, as spam lovers who find it unnatural to have civil conversations to delve into topics they don’t know kindly remind us. :)