• dillekant@slrpnk.net
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        8 days ago

        Wonder why conservatives are all neoliberal tho? Wonder why history in their books goes back to a certain time and no further?

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          8 days ago

          Ah, yes, all those “Neoliberals” on Hexbear telling people “both sides are bad” and promoting Donald Trump and AfD.

          Aren’t slrpnk users supposed to be anarchists? Doesn’t that basically make you libertarians as far as modern policy is concerned?

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            Anarchists are not libertarians, at least not insofar as Americans understand libertarianism. The so-called Libertarian US party is right-libertarian. Anarchists are left-libertarian. Little-L libertarianism in this case refers to the opposite of authoritarianism.

            But not all punks are anarchists anyway.

            Neoliberalism however is an economic policy based on the renewal of classical liberalism and free market capitalism. It is a conservative ideology, shared by many Republicans and Democrats alike. Republicanism is based on classical liberalism.

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              6 days ago

              In theory Anarchists aren’t Libertarians, but in practice? They seem to have exactly the same stances: weaken government, deregulate.

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                6 days ago

                Hey no need to downvote, just trying to have a conversation, not a fight.

                I’m telling you they don’t have the same stances: one is leftist, the other is far-right. One is anti-fascist, the other is willing to partner with neo-fascists so long as it benefits their self-interest (case in point, Jan 6 insurrection).

                Anarchists, like communists, want society to evolve beyond statism because they both see the state as fatally flawed at best and an oppressor at worst. An anarchist is someone who doesn’t need a cop to make them do the right thing. It’s not so much that anarchism is for deregulation and weak government as it for a society where all power is with all the people. In practice, instead of relying hierarchies, such as government as we know it, anarchists use politics like consensus decision-making to form community agreements. Anarchism, in this way, is a development of direct democracy.

                Perhaps your judgment against anarchism has to do with encounters with anarcho-egoism and anarcho-capitalism? These two ideologies are incompatible with classical anarchism, which is based on mutual aid. Or maybe you’ve encountered anarcho-primitivism, which I’d agree is perhaps as conservative as it gets lol.

                In the interest of vulnerability, I mostly align with anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-socialism with some hints of post-anarchism to form my theory and practice for how to develop a mutual society that doesn’t require the state.

                Have a nice day!

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                  6 days ago

                  Right right right you can use whatever endgoal sophistry and ideological nuance you want but its pretty clear anarchists and libertarians promote the same exact social and economic policy in the real world.