“Press with both hands”

…just when you thought this timeline couldn’t get much weirder.

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      Since we are not living in a perfect world, there are no perfect solutions for anything. I don’t envy people how have to make decisions like this one. It was the least terrible option, which is the best thing anyone can realistically hope for.

      If you’re seriously expecting even a country as advanced as Israel to be able to pull of something like this without ever endangering a single civilian, then you’re either hopelessly naive - or you don’t want Israel to defend itself at all. I can excuse the former, but not the latter. Hezbollah attacked without provocation and they attacked first. It is impossible to justify this and Israel had every right to fight back against a threat this severe.

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        Hezbollah had provocation, namely 75 years of oppression by the Israelis. They also did not attack first. This wasn’t Israel defending themselves, this was them once again attacking someone who stood up to them without a care about collateral deaths, which is their normal. You call them terrorists, but what I see in Hezbollah and Hamas are the lone defenders of a people the West is trying their absolute best to quietly genocide.

        I don’t really care if you can “excuse” me for saying so. I don’t really care what a genocide-promoting Zionist thinks, because quite frankly, the ideology is no different in its methods than Nazism, and I also don’t give a shit what Nazis think either. Israel picked this fight, and they deserve whatever comes their way.

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          You’re openly defending terrorists who are the furthest from freedom fighters imaginable. I have seen what these terrorists to do children. Hell, I’ve seen them shoot a family dog who was happily greeting them, before they murdered the family it belonged to. Have you?

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            I watched the videos of the things Israeli soldiers are doing to civilians in Palestine, so yes. I’ve seen what terrorists do to innocents. As an American, the absolute best thing that could happen for the world is my government be toppled, and the hegemony and cycle of terrorism we’re perpetuating in the Middle East stopped once and for all.

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              You have no idea just how much worse a multipolar world would be. America has been keeping a lid on so many conflicts around the globe. In many cases, all it takes is not even a carrier group parked near a country that wants to destabilize a region through direct warfare (like Venezuela recently), but just a sternly worded letter. No other nation on Earth has this kind of power. What do you think would happen to the global trade you too are relying on if there weren’t US ships patrolling international waters anymore? America is far from perfect, but there’s nobody that can replace it any time soon.

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                4 days ago

                Yeesh. You really are a liberal. Complete with a savior complex. I bet you voted democratic the past few elections, but told your white friends you agree with republicans on “fiscal issues”. You probably nodded your head when Hillary talked about black people as “superpredators”. Your favorite author is Tom Clancy, and you think the CIA are the good guys. People like you are the reason the world is fucked up. You’re the kind of person to “both sides” the conversation when it comes to nazis like Trump. Just stop pretending you want anything more than the US ruling the world.

                Fortunately for the rest of the world, the US has royally screwed the pooch. We are one of the worst things to ever happen in history, and it makes me happy to know that due to our own actions, we are inexorably moving towards a world that doesn’t revolve around us. And with other nations stepping up to fill that power vacuum, the day is coming sooner than most people anticipate when it won’t be us the rest of the world looks to for guidance. And there’s nothing you, or any other bootlicking schmuck in Washington, can do or say to stop that march of progress.

                Now, I’m going to block you, because speaking to someone like you makes me feel filthy, and I’m disgusted enough I’m going to take a shower.