You want a source for my guess? It’s just basic and logic and reason that would lead one to deduce that they probably were working to fix the people dying problem, and issued fixes as they went along.
I thought that was the problem. Ford figured the payouts for the problems was less than the cost of the fix, so they left the problems in. That was after known fatalities. That was the basis for the Tyler Durden character in Fight Club.
Ford had to recall 1.5 million of the cars for the failure to limited fuel vapor from entering the cabin after every crash over 25 mph. THe proposed fix could have been implemented for a cost as low as $1.
That was the basis for the Tyler Durden character in Fight Club.
No, you just made that up. The scene in Fight Club did not name a specific vehicle or brand. He says “my company” and the vehicle depicted in the scene is clearly not a Pinto.
You are grabbing on to a misquote about a fictional character while you drown over the important detail that you were fully wrong on your assertion about the Pinto.
100% of the pintos had a deadly fault and it was not addressed after release until 100% of the cars made at the time were recalled. The early pintos and the subsequent ones 1971 - 1976 were just as deadly . You are fully factually wrong on your assertion above. There is no quarter for your to bad faith argument that the early pinto was worse.
The sample size was the 1.5 million cars made between 1971 and 1976.
1.5 million is the sample size you need to spread the 51 deaths and incidents over . Not some imaginary time where it was fixed early on making the sample size small enough to fit your thesis.
It is very well documented . It’s the MOST covered event in US car safety history.
1.5 million is the sample size you need to spread the 51 deaths and incidents over
You are arguing out of ignorance because you couldn’t be bothered to simply read my comment before replying. 1.5M is <50% of the total vehicles manufactured, not 100%. The sample size was 3,173,491 and the number of deaths was 27.
You are fully factually wrong on your assertion above. Your data is wrong. You are wrong.
3 fatalities happened in the same Cybertruck, so this is a grand total of 2 crashes that legitimately resulted in deaths. One just happened to have a large number of occupants.
Even if you weren’t wrong, you’re operating under the premise that Tesla will (or would even be legally permitted to) follow the same path as Ford did 50 years ago and deny and ignore deaths to save pennies and ounces (it’s a 6500lb pickup truck, no one is counting ounces).
There are 3 types of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics. This is an excellent example of the third one.
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Source?
@Ulrich@feddit.org is absolutely correct
Can you point out specifically where it says that the first 34k pintos had a higher fatality rate? I read page 9 and didn’t see it.
Pintos had an over two orders of magnitude higher mortality rate then the numbers used in the original “analysis“. The rest of this is moot.
You want a source for my guess? It’s just basic and logic and reason that would lead one to deduce that they probably were working to fix the people dying problem, and issued fixes as they went along.
I thought that was the problem. Ford figured the payouts for the problems was less than the cost of the fix, so they left the problems in. That was after known fatalities. That was the basis for the Tyler Durden character in Fight Club.
Here is a link to the story of Fords part in the problem https://www.tortmuseum.org/ford-pinto/
Ford had to recall 1.5 million of the cars for the failure to limited fuel vapor from entering the cabin after every crash over 25 mph. THe proposed fix could have been implemented for a cost as low as $1.
No, you just made that up. The scene in Fight Club did not name a specific vehicle or brand. He says “my company” and the vehicle depicted in the scene is clearly not a Pinto.
You are grabbing on to a misquote about a fictional character while you drown over the important detail that you were fully wrong on your assertion about the Pinto.
100% of the pintos had a deadly fault and it was not addressed after release until 100% of the cars made at the time were recalled. The early pintos and the subsequent ones 1971 - 1976 were just as deadly . You are fully factually wrong on your assertion above. There is no quarter for your to bad faith argument that the early pinto was worse.
The sample size was the 1.5 million cars made between 1971 and 1976.
1.5 million is the sample size you need to spread the 51 deaths and incidents over . Not some imaginary time where it was fixed early on making the sample size small enough to fit your thesis.
It is very well documented . It’s the MOST covered event in US car safety history.
Your data is wrong . You are wrong.
You are arguing out of ignorance because you couldn’t be bothered to simply read my comment before replying. 1.5M is <50% of the total vehicles manufactured, not 100%. The sample size was 3,173,491 and the number of deaths was 27.
You are fully factually wrong on your assertion above. Your data is wrong. You are wrong.
3 fatalities happened in the same Cybertruck, so this is a grand total of 2 crashes that legitimately resulted in deaths. One just happened to have a large number of occupants.
Even if you weren’t wrong, you’re operating under the premise that Tesla will (or would even be legally permitted to) follow the same path as Ford did 50 years ago and deny and ignore deaths to save pennies and ounces (it’s a 6500lb pickup truck, no one is counting ounces).
There are 3 types of lies; lies, damned lies, and statistics. This is an excellent example of the third one.
Still Ford sold the pinto for many years never implementing a fix for the exploding gas tank while knowing it happens.
He did not say “my company”:
Yes he does. Try actually watching the scene.
Ok