In Chicago area for anyone wondering using the Walmart charging network. This is about ~13% capacity, wasn’t really low started charging at about 70%.

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      Yes, high speed chargers cost similar to gas (normal gas, not the current prices). Slow chargers cost about half of that. Charging at home is about half of that again (0.1€/kWh)

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      Right now a gallon of regular gas in the same area is about $4.75. My ICE car gets about 35mpg on average (although I do have to run premium, not regular). So yeah, less than $1 cheaper to operate for the same distance. At least off of the highway. On the highway, the ICE car still wins because electric cars dont see efficiency gains the same way during different methods of use unless they have regenerative braking. So while my ICE gets 35 mpg average, Im easily breaking 60mpg on the highway. But the electric probably does far better in the city stopping constantly since its regenerating every time it brakes. Maybe it evens out, but I think the ICE is still probably overall a bit less expensive when solely looking at cost of energy consumption vs milage. At least assuming that someone is primarily driving on the highway out of traffic rather than in traffic or in the city

      Charging prices probably dont fluctuate quite as intensely as gas prices, but ultimately the energy market is the energy market so theyre both going to rise with the tide in the general sense.

      The real savings advantage that an electric car has is in the simplicity of the parts and less regular maintenance needs. But that is pretty easily blown out of the water by the initial purchase price. An EV would be 3x what I paid for my ICE, and the lifetime maintenance isnt going to be on the order of $40k+. No matter what you buy youre getting screwed somewhere, you just get to pick the hole.

      Unless we start seeing $20k MSRP EVs in the US they really arent more affordable than ICE cars by any means

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        At $0.47/kw that math adds up. Charging out and about is expensive. They likely pay less then half that if they are able to charge at home.

        Based on them being near chicago, they may be able to charge as cheap as $0.09/kw (same rate Technology Connection says he averages). At those rates, EVs get a lot more competitive.

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        Basically all EVs have regen braking. Which is why EVs are actually a bit more efficient in town than highway: stop and go barely affects them and wind resistance is 4x less than highway at twice the speed. ICE vehicles as you know work the opposite way in terms of efficiency