Loveable rogue or mouthpiece for misinformation? Why Australian blokes love Joe Rogan
www.theguardian.com
Some consider it their dirty secret, for fear of being cancelled. Others openly enjoy the long-form format. Either way, the US podcaster’s appeal in Australia is undeniable

I thought this article was interesting, in that I am immediately suspicious of the motives of some of people quoted. The conclusion runs counter to what I want to be true, and I’m curious what other people make of it.

Also men: Do you actually feel attacked? I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone criticised for like being strong and capable, or a good carpenter, or a protective dad or whatever. Is this a real thing? or just something that is used as cover like the traditional values vs violent misogyny terminology.

P.S. Thinking there are hordes of ravenous cancellers waiting in the wings is extremely funny to me. Not exactly beating the allegations that listening to Jo Rogan damages your perception of reality.

  • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    There’s a lot if casual misandry in the media. There is a rejection of the traditional male head of the household gender role but there isn’t a clearly defined replacement that we agree to so right now a lot if younger men have no real masculine ideal to aspire to and guys like Rogan fill that hole as he’s supposedly tough, funny, responsible and a solid bread winner for his family (regardless of whether that is accurate IDK). He gives guys a model to aspire to even if it is controversial.

    What I wonder is how we shift away from the caveman ideal that Rogan represents to someone more in the vein of Bob Ross or Fred Rodgers (Mr Rodgers Neighborhood). We would all be better if guys wanted to be Fred Rodgers

      • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 days ago

        Go watch some sitcoms and try to find a father who is competent. It’s fairly rare. We have a lot of narratives that portray men as less rational/capable parents.

        Like I said it’s casual. It’s not on the same level as the misogyny in society but it is there.

        • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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          5 days ago

          That’s actually a really interesting example. Like yeah, you’re kinda right that that sorta portrayal can foster low-level misandrist attitudes, but I’d say that in a society that systemically devalues that sort of work, portraying men as being generally incompetent at child-rearing and household tasks is mostly to their own benefit, because that stereotype implies that unpaid domestic labour is better just left to women. It’s like weaponised incompetence at scale.