• RainbowTankie@lemmygrad.ml
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    14 days ago

    “Neither private property nor billionaires disprove socialism.” - I mean, the world’s first socialist state, the Soviet Union, had abolished private property and didn’t have billionaires. Neither did Yugoslavia and neither does Cuba, just to name a few.

    “Such criteria are of moralist origin, it is plain revisionism to force moralism where it does not belong to begin with.” - This is a stupid and lazy argument. If anyone’s a revisionist, it’s you. Communism is a stateless, moneyless and classless society. Socialism is the road to Communism. Private property and billionaires (literally capitalists) are a barrier to achieving a Communist society. It can be argued that China has the dictatorship of the proletariat, and that it is progressive and that it has elements of a socialist political economy, but I don’t consider it socialist. If you can argue that China is socialist, then you can argue that the UK and America are socialist. How would you define socialism?