Okay, so the CEO of Proton didn’t pass your purity test, I get it. But you know which CEOs also suck? The CEO of Google and the CEO of Microsoft. How can we expect secure and private alternatives to these ecosystems to flourish if we are constantly engaged in infighting? We will get nowhere if we reject every service that is short of perfect. Let’s keep our eyes on the bigger picture here.

Another hot take: I suspect that at least some of the hate directed at Proton is a smear campaign by some state actor who wants to see private online platforms fail.

  • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
    203·
    9 days ago

    you know what other dictators were democratically elected? basically all of them.

    • tottle@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      218·
      9 days ago

      I know Hitler (for example) was elected but he suspended elections in Germany. Literally name one dictator that hasn’t suspended democratic processes.

        • tottle@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          323·
          9 days ago

          Are you suggesting that none of these people have interfered with the democratic processes in their respective countries? Because that is false. Log out and read a book buddy

          • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
            15·
            9 days ago

            are you suggesting trump hasn’t? i’m just using your criteria to answer your questions, my guy. calm down.

            • tottle@lemmy.caOPEnglish
              410·
              9 days ago

              ’m just using your criteria to answer your questions

              No, you aren’t.

              are you suggesting trump hasn’t?

              Yeah, I am. The Dems just crushed hm last night. Do you think he rigged that election? Get serious.

              • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
                101·
                9 days ago

                Literally name one dictator that hasn’t suspended democratic processes.

                first, the question was “Literally name one dictator that hasn’t suspended democratic processes.”. so i named five. then you changed it to “interfered with democratic processes”. vote buying, intimidation, and smear campaigns are all election interference.

              • erin@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                7·
                9 days ago

                He really, really tried. He threatened legal action, sent intimidation to the counties he thinks will “vote wrong,” he tried to force mass disenfranchisement of political opponents, he pulled multiple “heads I win, tails you lose” legal arrangements for contested races, he has sown doubt about non-existent widespread election fraud, he tried to overturn an election, he pressures Georgia to “find him more votes,” he constantly prosecutes his political opponents on bogus charges that never stick…

                I could go on. Do you live under a rock? He’s only not controlling this election because he failed. They badly wanted to rig things in their favor, forever. Project 2025.

                Edit: oh, right, I left out offering bribes to vote in his favor and instructing state GOPs to gerrymander as hard as possible, while contesting blue states doing the same. Trump is a dictator, he’s just bad at it.