I find it amusing that there’s a lot of sympathetic comments on this post putting a face on the consequences of these riots but on the other post showing a police car in a crowd all the comments were proud of the rioters.
I’m all for showing numbers and voicing our concerns but we’re just punching sideways when there’s a riot. I find it sad that people here on Lemmy side with the rioters
I side with the rioters because rioting creates a capital cost that can not be ignored. Peaceful protests can be ignored and are ignored. Smash windows and burn buildings. After the riot capital has to respond. It’s juvenile to suggest political change can happen with none of the advocates harmed. That’s a fantasy. Revolutions are messy–that is the reality. I’d rather advocate and be in a messy revolution than peacefully protest as capital subjugates labour into a poverty state. Assassinate your landlord and every real-estate agent.
Yes, peaceful protests are easy to ignore. But surely there is a balance between “don’t break anything” and “destroy a working class business”.
Maybe destroy public property (the property of those that need to make the change) or the property of the ultra rich (the property of those that made the change necessary).
It’s like arguing that a kid who gets bullied is justified in responding violently, but instead of lashing out at a staff member or the bully, they’re beating up band kids
No there is not. Peaceful protests are not easy to ignore they are ignored. That’s historical fact. To protest is to intimidate and produce fear of overwhelming violence. A peaceful protest is nonsensical and such a thing has become not a protest but a farce or a form of entertainment–no wonder the Americans love such things!
Protest-leaders will be directing violence to where they think it will be most effective, but these are chaotic environments and self-harm is always a result. The goal is to minimize that, not eliminate it, because it can not be done. It is collateral.
I’m the type that doesn’t consider burning down the city I live in and destroying public property is the path to progress. France’s economy is already strained and guess who’ll have to pay to rebuild everything? Hint: It’s not the elites
It might be cathartic to burn down your house because you don’t like your landlord but it doesn’t solve anything
I find it amusing that there’s a lot of sympathetic comments on this post putting a face on the consequences of these riots but on the other post showing a police car in a crowd all the comments were proud of the rioters.
I’m all for showing numbers and voicing our concerns but we’re just punching sideways when there’s a riot. I find it sad that people here on Lemmy side with the rioters
I side with the rioters because rioting creates a capital cost that can not be ignored. Peaceful protests can be ignored and are ignored. Smash windows and burn buildings. After the riot capital has to respond. It’s juvenile to suggest political change can happen with none of the advocates harmed. That’s a fantasy. Revolutions are messy–that is the reality. I’d rather advocate and be in a messy revolution than peacefully protest as capital subjugates labour into a poverty state. Assassinate your landlord and every real-estate agent.
Yes, peaceful protests are easy to ignore. But surely there is a balance between “don’t break anything” and “destroy a working class business”.
Maybe destroy public property (the property of those that need to make the change) or the property of the ultra rich (the property of those that made the change necessary).
It’s like arguing that a kid who gets bullied is justified in responding violently, but instead of lashing out at a staff member or the bully, they’re beating up band kids
Go be a riot manager then. Good luck.
No there is not. Peaceful protests are not easy to ignore they are ignored. That’s historical fact. To protest is to intimidate and produce fear of overwhelming violence. A peaceful protest is nonsensical and such a thing has become not a protest but a farce or a form of entertainment–no wonder the Americans love such things!
Protest-leaders will be directing violence to where they think it will be most effective, but these are chaotic environments and self-harm is always a result. The goal is to minimize that, not eliminate it, because it can not be done. It is collateral.
So you’re the type that thinks dancing at No Kings is an effective protest?
I’m the type that doesn’t consider burning down the city I live in and destroying public property is the path to progress. France’s economy is already strained and guess who’ll have to pay to rebuild everything? Hint: It’s not the elites
It might be cathartic to burn down your house because you don’t like your landlord but it doesn’t solve anything