DarkThoughts

I don’t understand why it is called “green”? It’s using natural gas as fuel.

This is a photo hosting site, that you don’t even need to stop using yourself. If you’d like to view motherless, you can. Hell, if you find something that’s not CP you could upload it on another site if you really wanted.

This is such a weird hill to die on. You’re defending a site known to have CP, that’s very weird.

I don’t really care about motherless. It’s just a simple principle regarding censorship and overreach and I don’t understand why you respond with such a kneejerk reaction? Bans like this should have a proper basis behind them, regardless of what site it is.

Your argument is reddit and 4chan hosted questionable material and they banned the site. Wouldn’t that mean, by your logic, that we would also want to ban it because if we’re supposed to be better than them, then we would want to ban something they deemed as worse than them.

My argument is that all those mentioned sites are known to have been a host for such material. Now the question is why we treat one site differently than others, despite evidently there not being much of a case against any of them at least in their current state. So yes, if all those mentioned sites host such material, and that is the basis for this ban, then all of those sites should be banned along with motherless. Also, I cannot really verify with what exact reasoning & evidence 4chan & Reddit banned it or who did it first. If they just said they host CSAM and gave an equally flimsy reason for that as you did, then there would be now just 3 sites that banned another site while citing each other? So what’s next? A fourth site doing the same, on the sole basis of the other 3 doing it but without further proof that there’s actually a CSAM issue there (at least one that’s not generally worse than all the other mentioned sites)? Do you not see how that is a problem?

Also, if there was a direct link to someone’s social media with personal identifying information that was not consensual it would get removed. So yes Facebook and places are not 100% in the clear either.

That wasn’t really the topic though? It was about alleged CSAM being hosted there, primarily based on your .pdf report, which also listed all those other sites along with it. Yet, only one of them gets this treatment? I simply do not understand how this line is drawn at this site specifically.

4chan and reddit would not ban the site on baseless allegations

Reddit is well known for unreasonable bans of users & communities. Their CEO itself was once moderator of /r/jailbait. Reddit as well as 4chan are generally known for such content too.

It’s explicitly listed in the Office of Justice’s docs about sites known to be used to distribute csam.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/301590.pdf

So according to your source:

Social networking sites, such as Facebook [287, 307], Twitter [308, 309, 310], Facebook’s Instagram, Google’s YouTube, Reddit, and lesser known social sites (e.g., Motherless.com) that are too numerous to list.

I assume this means you also ban Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and Reddit links? Or are only “smaller sites” ban worthy?

I’ve been on that site before. They’re certainly more lax with their content & titles but I have never seen any obvious CSAM / minors there. At best you’d see teens where it would be hard to tell if they’re above or below 18 years old. The only time I stumbled on obvious CSAM material is all the way back in the early days of the www & filesharing where assholes would intentionally rename those videos to something like popular movie titles or other files & change the file ending. Luckily it wasn’t that monitored back then so my mom didn’t got any unwanted visits or letters but this was truly a minefield back then.

So what’s the basis of the alleged lack of moderation of CSAM on Motherless then?

The duality of the Fediverse. On one hand getting accused of being a toxic troll that’s banned everywhere for being against murder, terrorism, genocide & rape, and on the other hand I’m part of “the echo chamber”. Make it make sense.

What in the Zensursula are you people doing?! I feel like I’m the only person on this planet who never accidentally stumbled upon CSAM on any website, including on Motherless.

Edit: Yep, checked again, nothing really there. Another bullshit post from the negative reputation troll.

I said it before, I say it again. I’m SO glad I won the birth lottery. To think I could’ve popped out in some authoritarian or extremist shithole instead and how my life would’ve looked like instead. For all that’s wrong in my life and my country, I’m glad it’s not as terrible as in many other places around the world.

you don’t even have family to look back on fondly in your last moment.

Not sure how you got there? North Koreans obviously still have family & friends.

That does not matter. If you operate within the EU then you have to abide to EU law.

If it was law to abide to the Do Not Track setting, then a leak about a company dishonoring this would simply face massive fines, which is usually enough encouragement for them to abide.

How’s that different?

Even more reason to make it legally binding.

This is sad and yet another step backwards for Firefox. Yes, not many websites honored it, but some did and automatically set cookie preferences accordingly. There should’ve been more lobbying for this to become legally binding within the EU instead.

Well, feel free to provide proof that those sites are Russian propaganda websites then.

Okay? You did not provide any proof of those examples being Russian propaganda websites though? Just because someone shares Russian talking points, does not make the website a Russian propaganda site. I asked for actual proof of that statement that makes them near 100% confident, because that would require substantial proof. But it seems it’s just feelings and “I don’t like their opinion” based instead, which is a sad metric for being nearly 100% convinced.

Edit: You all really love disinformation, huh? At least it feeds your confirmation bias instead of telling the truth, that’s the most important thing.

Could you be more specific?

Am I the only one imagining a chatbot acting like the characters in the Truman Show?

Then an Hexbear admin unilaterally decided to defederate from jlai.lu claiming it had “reactionary” users and “no effort was made to address this” (no jlai.lu admin was contacted nor prompted about the existence of such users).

This is funny because it sort of mimics Russian, Chinese or North Korean politics to a degree as well. Everyone’s authoritarian, fascists, Nazis - except for them, the beacon of democracy, freedom, and values.

How long until the leopards eat your face?