Why all the whataboutism?

Every election cycle there is a non zero number of people that get tricked into voting against their own best interest. That’s a valid thing to call out and be angry about.

Just because that commenter pointed that out doesn’t mean he doesn’t also get angry about all the other things you’re “whatabouting” about.

You have to vote for the lesser of two evils in order to get a chance at changing the election system.

The GOP are trying to take away voting rights. Not the Dems.

I’ve been banned from lemmy.ml for stating that Russia invaded Ukraine.

They actively ban anyone who doesn’t support Russian propaganda.

I’m gonna guess Trump would respond with:

A) “Fake News”

B) “A lot of people are saying they aren’t Chinese”

C) “Ukraine shouldn’t have started the war. China is just helping an ally.”

D) Not comment on it at all and say/do something attention grabbing to distract.

I don’t think he really cares about China. I think he’s just sabotaging the US for Putin.

You don’t care about “your people’s” plight as we can prove with Trump’s 2nd term.

Policy on Palestine definitely did change. Protestors are disappearing and Trump plans to own Gaza and much more.

This is the result of bad faith actors like yourself helping Trump get elected.

It didn’t hold Dems accountable. It got Trump elected because that was the intent all along.

There are many constituents that support Israel. As you pointed out yourself it is a politicians job to represent those constituents.

The bad guys in this are the bad faith actors that use Gaza to justify helping Trump get elected.

They ALL claim they voted for Harris while in the same breath spreading FUD towards Harris.

The people like yourself, that complained about our only choice other than fascism, are the ones to blame for getting fascism elected.

I blame everyone who didn’t vote for Harris. They all contributed to Trump and his fascist takeover.

Gaza protestors were tricked into voting against their own best interest and that is a lesson that should be learned from instead of repeated.

But bad faith actors like yourself don’t care about Israel or Gaza. You are just trying to get less people to vote against fascism.

Good thing Gaza protestors didn’t vote for “Genocide Joe”. /s

This is an oversimplification that ignores nuance.

It’s like saying “everyone dies one day, so whatever symptoms you are experiencing automatically mean you are dying now”.

This is all part of the natural life cycle of empires. Best case scenario is they fizzle out with protection from another empire, like Great Britain did. Worst case scenario is really bad.

You’re saying Russia is invading Ukraine and China is getting ready to invade Taiwan because the US has less control because of decadence?

This is all part of the natural life cycle of empires. Best case scenario is they fizzle out with protection from another empire, like Great Britain did. Worst case scenario is really bad.

This isn’t even the first time in US history that they’ve become isolationist.

bOtH sIdEs R sAmE!

It looks like all the Russian agents (Republicans) are trying to spoil US relations with Europe. Why would Putin want them to do that?

They downvote you because you spoke the truth

This is why leftists consistently lose elections.

Why do Democrats talk like they can win elections but then blame voters when they lose?

Because they’ve won the majority of elections in the last 3 decades. They arent blaming voters when they lose. The voters that voted democrat are blaming leftists for not voting and getting Trump elected.

And to be honest, I don’t really even follow your post. Are Democrats not progressives? Are we agreeing that they are center right and that their base isn’t really motivated to vote for that?

Democrats have been moving left since Obama. Leftist didn’t show up to vote this elections because of Gaza so they got Trump elected. So now democrats need to cater to the right to increase voter turnout.

Why is it that progressives consistently lose elections but talk like they know how to win elections?

If progressives know how to win better than democrats why do they keep losing elections?

We are in an echo chamber. Downvotes on lemmy do not reflect a real world consensus on opinions.

And giving people the choice between center right and far-right doesn’t motivate voters.

That choice was made by the voters.

Nah, they just cater to their corporate donors and folks that would never vote for them.

Because of Citizens United, this is a necessary evil. You either get donors or you lose from lack of funding.

Look at the progressives that lost recently because AIPAC out funded their competition.

Voters had to chose between two candidates, one on the left and one on the right. Voters chose the one on the right. Meaning not enough leftist showed up to vote.

Leftist don’t show up to vote > voters chose the option furthest right > leftists learn nothing, blame democrats and do it again next cycle.