Somebody_Else

I mean, you said.

Left is the political “left,” generally proposing a “managed economy” or “regulations on businesses,” as opposed to the “right” which often values Laissez-faire capitalism.

Which is just hilariously wrong.

So im not sure how much stock to put in the rest of what you said

Most people just call them “tankies.”

Tankie is a pejorative for people who are too stupid to realize that North Korea isnt communist as far as I know.

WTF is the “hyper-auth-left”?

If people are mis-using the metaphor to push an agenda, the solution isnt to further twist the metaphor, it’s to push back tell them they are using it incorrectly, and that they are full of shit. Further misinterpreting the metaphor doesn’t solve anything, and just allows further abuse of the metaphor.

Im not twisting the metaphor, im calling out how it has been twisted.

If anything, this misinterpretation is exactly what a right wingers want, as it legitimises their use of the sound byte, without hold their word to the higher standard of the original metaphor.

Calling out what right wingers actually mean is never what right wingers want.

We should be holding the metaphor to its strictest meaning, which is a good policy (rising tide) must benefit absolutely everyone (ALL ships).

But thats not what it means, its strictest meaning is that a rising tide will lift all boats. That is, what is good for one person is equally good for all people. It doesnt say anything about good policy or what that must mean.

The metaphor doesn’t use the word people at all. Boats refers to all people. Some are big boats (wealthy), some are dingies (poor). The tide raises all the boats equally.

Thats the surface level meaning sure, and thats what people want you to think they mean. But more or less every time I’ve heard the metaphor, its being used to pretend like me not being able to buy grovceries is the same as Elon Musk being a trillionaire, or Trump having gold plated toilets in his second vacation home or w/e (because we are both boats and a rising tide lifts all boats equally right?)

If you want to twist the metaphor into some kind of class thing, fine, but you are deliberately misinterpreting it to push your agenda.

Either the metaphor has already been twisted, or its simply being deliberately misused to push an agenda.

If its being deliberately misused, I guess you can argue that its not being “twisted” by technical definition, but to pretend like people who understand how its being used are deliberately misinterpreting it is a level of intellectual dishonesty thats pretty bad.

Either you know what you are doing, or you are so dumb you dont get it…I could try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but im not sure I know which is better tbh.

Its a metaphor, it isnt literal

You dont say?

Oh my god. This thread is infuriating.

People calling your bullshit would be pretty infuriating if you are used to just shouting people down I guess.

The people are the fucking boats the wealthy just own the big ones and the tide is not going to drown everyone in the fucking town that might exist somewhere.

This is the meaning people want you to think they mean.

Its not the meaning they actually mean.

You’re misinterpreting the metaphor.

No, OP is just correctly understanding the part of the metaphor that the people with boats don’t want you to look at.

There isno separate class of boatless people in the metaphor,

That the person making the statement care about

the boats are the people.

The boats are owned by the very wealthy

Most outrageous / unbelievable lies

Jesus is god

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Republicans want what is best for the country too. The world / USA fought the Nazis because of how evil they are
The KKK / Neonazis / White Supremacists are in the past.

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Work hard and stay loyal and you will progress in your career.

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Uncle … is just old-fashioned.

Lies you took as truth and didn’t question it until you were way too old

The ultra wealthy work so hard to create jobs for everyone else

A person is not allowed to constantly block another person either, and refuse to stop even when police order it?

She didn’t tho. A person would simply have walked around her, she is allowed to stand on the sidewalk and not move.