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oof, i really hope this sample is not representative of the general type of people on this forum. go outside and find some nature to sit in
this transports me back to high school level communication, thanks for the nostalgia 😄 🙏
it’s fine, i’m just commenting that it’s getting tiring and I don’t see people doing something constructive with that anger on a forum where my perception is there are a lot of intelligent people who have power from technical understanding that carries a lot of power. I have a need to see progress and structure through collective wisdom as I think that is lacking.
Hmm, yeah I don’t think this medium of communication is able to carry the nuances, because I also agree that the notion of “I already do bad thing, so more bad thing is fine” is wild and I’m confused if you took that from my message. I’d like to think most people who have employed some common sense and want good for the world would agree with that statement! What I’m trying hard to communicate on this forum and seeing a lot of resistance toward is that the repetitive divergent anger (maybe we call this rage?) toward something is not constructive. I understand it’s a natural human reaction and has its place, but at some point I’d like to see humanity take radical responsibility for our shared involvement in the roles that contribute to why the world is how it is today. I would argue we’ve been fairly unconscious about it, but now that the internet exists and we have this ability to exchange ideas across vast amounts of space, we can use the tools at our disposal in a spectrum of ways that range from good to bad. How can we make space for our human experience, but then also apply collective wisdom to make well-informed actionable steps forward?
how sad that’s what you decided to highlight…
I don’t have to actively boycott Coca Cola, I just don’t drink it. I would argue equally that the people who are actively boycotting it should put their time toward something more constructive like reviving the soil.
ah, okay bravo 👏 I might gamble that statistics would be more on my side with those, but I think the point I’m trying to get across is still valid which is there is a lot of bad shit going on in this world that we are complicit in to some degree just by participating in society. Arguably, for example, even using the US dollar is promoting a war-fueled economy. Of course, I still use it, because the decentralized sovereign alternatives do not yet let give me the liquidity I’d like. I came to this sub looking to learn and mostly all I see are people getting angry about things they don’t like in a way that is not effective. Do they have the right to do so? Sure! I also have a right to be critical of it and say this is not the learning environment I was hoping for coming from reddit. I would rather go somewhere I can have constructive conversation over positive things within our control because there’s only so much time in the day and I don’t spend it all on my computer.
i’d be curious if you eat chicken from the supermarket? Have you ever lived next to a chicken factory, breathed and listened to that one? Do you drink Coca Cola? Sorry to break it to you, but we’re all complicit in things that are destroying nature and humanity and just because you’ve desensitized yourself to the other ones don’t mean they’re not happening. You can rage all you want at each one, but it’s not going to be constructive. At some point we just have to come to terms with reality that we’re also responsible for this reality and I don’t agree with AI’s effects on nature either, but I think if we’re smart we can leverage its capabilities in the window of opportunity available with the people who are most capable (good developers) to create pathways leading toward better things. Or just go yell and rage some more, as you wish.
alright, i’m disengaging from this echo box… everyone should go outside and sit in nature for a while
Rage is uncontrolled anger… it’s not helping anyone and certainly not the person experiencing it. If you can find a way to channel that anger into something constructive, then you are doing something beneficial for all
or imagine a reality where AI just exists alongside other things. Stop catastrophizing
Claude, write me a bash script that proves there is more to life than !linux@programming.dev
let’s see, i woke up and did jiu jitsu. I went to the local vegetable market with my dog, bought some breakfast and got some coffee and practiced my Spanish with the vendor. I spoke with a nice lady about art residencies and her desire to live an alternative lifestyle even though shes 75. I had a conversation about iterative prisoner’s dilemma game theory. Then I came home and now I’m replying to your low dimensional attempt at an insult, while spending some tokens to fix a form validation bug across a web app 💙
believe it or not i have the ability to still use my mind even when there are tools at my disposal! And I was at the local veggie market talking to people during that hour, so sadly again your narrative is wrong 😞 your response, however, pretty low effort… might need to throw a captcha at you
i came to this forum thinking i’d find interesting stuff and it’s mostly just people getting angry at reality
stop trying to force a reality that fits your narrative
I want to give a better response to this because I think it’s important, assuming you decide to trust any of the words an internet stranger might say…
I don’t mean this personally, but with respect to the topic at hand, I really just think you’re oblivious to one important thing, which is that we probably share more alignment than you imagine. There is the part of me that just wants to troll on the internet and “dunk” on people, but I also feel like I’m growing out of that in the interest of hoping there’s a way to use technology to collaborate with each other instead of cause more divergence.
The point that I’m trying to make (and acknowledging that you’re probably not reading my other comments) is that your tactics seem to be one where you’re pushing against something that’s bigger than you and wasting more energy than what you’re gaining, likely at the benefit of the very thing you’re raging against. Of course, this is not a black and white universe, hopefully you are gaining something, but only you know if you’re operating at a gain/deficit.
Nonetheless, I feel strongly that all of this anger and hatred toward AI could have a more eloquent approach - a “tai chi” sense of going with the current and then guiding it into something utilizing its momentum for more positive outcomes.