• GreyPilgrim@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    It’s gotta be Wab Kinew eventually. He’s doing such a good job rallying Manitobans and he seems more likable overall.

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    4 days ago

    Nope. Time for Singh to kick rocks.

    If the party suffers under your leadership, you are not right for the party.

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      3 days ago

      The metric for the NDP isn’t how many seats they get, because they’re never going to get into power. Its how much influence they are able to apply to the government. By that metric, the NDP have been doing well.

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        By that metric, the NDP have been doing well.

        Except the sabre-rattling that could let Milhouse into power and damn the country. Aside from that, it was good. When Jagmeet had the screws to Justin and was getting things people needed, that was a good thing that the power play killed.

        I don’t think we’ll get that back, even under Mark, and that’ll be the lasting damage here.

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          The government was going to fall if Trudeau didn’t retire. With that context, it didn’t really cost our country anything, and it allowed the NDP to demonstrate to the next government that they have agency and the will to use it.

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      Hmm. That’s a really great take. Can we afford to lose her tireless focus regionally just to get her federally? She needs a cushier appointment after the PTSD of living in such a fiefdom, but no one else in her role has her experience with those chucklenuts and I worry that’s to the detriment of people in the 403 I care about.

      Oh, but she’d be great as in the Canada’s Conscience role as she’s yet more unbiased than Jagmeet; and if we can’t have Mr Mulcair poking fun at the blues, then I choo-choo-choose her.

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    When they were picking Jagmeet, I wanted Charlie Angus or Niki Ashton. Jagmeet’s leadership has (unfortunately) just been a waste of time and votes.

    As others have said, Wab Kinew would also be a good choice. Does anyone else remember seeing his music videos on MuchMusic back in the day? So weird to see him in politics now, but he’s doing well.

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        4 days ago

        Hard to say. I get the impression he’s, if not exactly starting to burn out, then at least getting pretty tired. He has one of the largest (second-largest?) and least-accessible ridings in Ontario, and apparently just getting from Point A to Point B is starting to wear him down.

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    4 days ago

    Still?

    He never was. NEVER! The NDP made a mistake in choosing him, and he’s been mostly unable to rise to the role ever since.

    Seems like a likeable guy, but not a political leader of note.

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    4 days ago

    Then why is Angus on CNN and sponsoring these Musk petitions? As party leader that should be him.

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      Charlie is on because he’s backing the petition(s). Just because Singh is party leader doesn’t mean he has to do it … although it would likely have helped how the public sees him.

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        3 days ago

        I’m shocked this stunt is selling with sophisticated voters. He knew it was impossible, and it undermines the value of all our citizenships. I find it disgusting.

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      Your comment is basically everyone in this thread. They don’t think he should be leader but they can’t offer any specific criticism.

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        He has been pretty much invisible in the last few years. Very little articles with him as the headline. Compare that to Trudeau, Carney, Poilievre and even the bloc leader (at least in quebec) and it’s a different story

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    I wanna see Wab Kinew become the leader! The guy has charisma. The guy can lean on Riel and and his French immersion high school to rally Quebec. And we’re well overdue for a first First Nations person as a head of state.

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      I was thinking the same about him lately. The federal NDP running on a platform that respects the dignity of the working class with a smiling Wab Kinew out front would be inspiring. But he won’t be free for a while yet.

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        Canada can’t have him until he’s fixed everything that Pallister and Stefanson screwed up.

        I can’t fell you how great it is having a premier who actually gives a shit about us.

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          Reminds me of when my high school principal got transferred because our school was doing too well. It really sucks when that happens.

          I’m glad you have someone who is good. My conservative dad even sent a text the other day saying each time he sees Mr Kinew he likes him more.

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            He’s done well. He has some baggage from a while back and I wasn’t sure if he’d be able to overcome it, but so far so good.

            I’m quietly hoping this isn’t a Jekyll/Hyde scenario and he stays on track.

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    4 days ago

    Singh was asked if he’s still the right leader for the party.

    “So if you want to defend health care, I’m your guy. I’m the only one that’s committed to defending health care, fighting back against privatization, not letting people profit off the pain of Canadians,” he said.

    Singh said both the Liberals and Conservatives are proposing cuts to federal spending […]

    Either the question was asked poorly or he didn’t understand because he clearly was not answering the question that was asked.

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      One of the frustrating new realities of politicians these days is that they basically all follow the mantra of “don’t answer the question that was asked, answer the question that you wish was asked”. It’s extremely frustrating.

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      Yeah, but the same thing can be said of most politicians these days. They stick to their talking points and don’t go off-script much.

      I mean I hate it too, but it’s what politics is now.

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        I unfortunately understand that but it’s more that the headline is using the “non-answer” for their question.

        “Are you the right leader for the NDP?”

        “I am absolutely the right leader for the country”

        Title: “Singh says he is the right leader for the NDP”

        I suppose it could be a good way to combat their non-answers by using it literally to quote them and make them look dumb.

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      100% this. The NDP need assertive, angry leadership. Someone who can stab at the political establishment with the righteous anger of the working class and demand worker’s rights, a wealth cap, and an end to rent-seeking.

      I think Singh shares a lot of those ideals, but his persona is just too friendly (he describes how to pronounce his name as “rhymes with hug” ffs). Every time I hear from Angus, I find myself shouting “fuck yeah!”. That’s the kind of leader the Left needs.

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        I agree that the party needs more aggressive leadership but as a person of colour I can guarantee Jagmeet’s already weakening support would tank if he was seen as anything less than a model minority. Racist people don’t want to see any brown man lead the country, much less an angry brown man.

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          That’s a good point. It’s infuriating that racism has an effect on our politics like this. Really what this says is: no matter what Jagmeet says or does, he’s not electable because of his skin colour, and that’s fucked.

          I was an NDP supporter for a long time, until Mulcair started doing insane things like dragging the party to the right. Now I vote Green, since they’re the only party that seems to care whether there is a world for my kid to grow up in, but I would come back to the NDP in a heartbeat if I saw them genuinely fighting for the planet and workers again. But it’s the fighting I want to see.

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    I would have been more inclined to go NDP if he resigned a long time ago. Too little too late for me. Liberals did a bunch of cheesy bullshit, he backed them in them, and now he wants to pretend that never happened. We have no good options.

  • HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    sigh

    I like him, but leadership of a party just doesn’t seem to be his thing.

    Everyone should have to take a class in school that helps you identify your strengths and weaknesses, so at least you have some idea what abilities you’ve got. Part of the course should include knowing when to step back.

    • SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.works
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      He would be a decent minister.

      People overestimating their ability is common and somewhat reasonable. The party not doing much about while it’s on the path of losing official part status is incompetence.