Which damage gets prevented?
So in a game of @mtg@mtgzone.com the other day, my enemy attacked with Mons’s Goblin Raiders and Ghyrson. Which would normally deal four damage total then two more from Ghyrson. But I had played a Bandage, preventing “the next” damage. If that next damage is the one from the Goblins, I don’t get the extra Ghyrson damage, so that’s why it matters.
There was no first strike in this particular situation.
@Sandra @mtg Naively, I would think the goblins’ damage would be prevented, such that Ghyrson doesn’t fire? The wording of Ghyrson sounds like it triggers off of a source of damage resolving, such that it couldn’t happen before or simulntaneously with the goblins’ damage.
That is, I’d see it roughly as:
• Blockers are assigned
• Bandage goes on the stack
• Bandage resolves
• Damage resolution: Goblins do 1 damage
• Ghyrson’s trigger sees the damageThank you! The issue is that Ghyrson and the goblins do their damage simultaneously (3+1-1=3, but if that’s 2+1 I still get shot but if that’s 3+0 I don’t).
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@Sandra @mtg Ah, got it, I’d missed that Ghyrson was also attacking, sorry, now I see the problem. Oh, wow, that is a bit hairy… even reading the CRs it seems like there’s no real resolution to what “next” means in that case?
The Gatherer rulings on Bandage are similarly useless, I wonder if there’s another prevent-next effect that might have more useful rulings?
@lovestha @Sandra @mtg Right, this is just a bit of a funny one in that there’s only one prevention effect, but multiple things it could apply to, instead of multiple effects applying to the same thing.
It makes sense a similar design philosophy holds in both cases, but without there being a separate 615.7, I’m not sure how you’d resolve the goblins + Ghyrson + Bandage example.
