• bluGill@fedia.io
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    2 days ago

    There are much better 10 year targets to have. Too many 10 year targets dilutes them all and soon people don’t pay attention and so you fail them all.

    As such I agree - everything I know about the UK (I’m an American who has never been there so not much!) says their insulation levels are world leading pathetic. Fixing insulation would make a much larger difference than just about anything they could do as such I would (again as an outsider who doesn’t know UKs problems) place insulation as what should be a top priority because of how much larger the impact it would have. A 60% boiler (something 50 years old) in a well insulated house would use similar energy to a heat pump in an uninsulated house (there are so many variables in that statement that you cannot actually find any comparison to verify it)

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      The issue we have is that we have a large supply of housing stock built 80-120 years ago that cannot be efficiently insulated without it costing an obscene amount of money. A lot of these older houses also have no wall cavity, meaning wall insulation can’t be done (without adding thick panels to the inside of every room, making each room smaller).

      It’s a tough situation, so I don’t envy the government. Much like our roads, we are massively impeded by the fact that we’re an old country and we tend to not want to knock things down and build from scratch.

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        A lot of these older houses also have no wall cavity, meaning wall insulation can’t be done (without adding thick panels to the inside of every room, making each room smaller).

        Where is this one coming from now?

        You can insulate terraced housing perfectly well from the outside. Added benefit is increased aesthetics of such solution.

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          I live in a conservation area where external insulation will be a hard sell. There’s a lot of such areas around, some a lot more restrictive than where I am.

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              My point is that not all houses can be insulated externally. In fact, many cannot even if it would be technically viable.

              I thought it was pretty obvious but happy to clarify!

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        Not knocking things down and rebuilding is often a problem. People get too caught up in things they can see would be lost (those old buildings which often were beautiful) but fail to see what they are missing: a well insulated building that meets/fits modern needs.

        Of course it is expensive to rebuild from scratch so you wouldn’t do it too often, but don’t be afraid to do it either - it should be a great long term investment (paid off in lower HVAC bills, and layouts that are more modern)