Is anyone actually surprised by this?
Unrelated but yesterday I saw a post where the person was mocking those concerned by the chinese getting their data, saying things like “why would they care” and some people sarcastically saying they wouldn’t understand the data because “it was in another language”. Were those people right or not?
We are now at a time where US blocks China services in order to protect its companies
Just like many US services are banned in China in Order to protect their companies
So, I hope no surprise…
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Its or their for countries?
Like every app you have doesn’t collect keystrokes data?
right?
CHINESE APP COLLECTS YOUR THOUGHTS AND SAVES THEM
as opposed to OpenAI which also stores keystrokes and then sells them to anyone who’d pay?
When I read DeepSeek’s privacy policy, I was creeped out by the invasiveness of the keystrokes thing. Then I realised that ChatGPT is just as creepy, but less upfront about it, and DeepSeek’s relative transparencyn caused me to see them in a more favourable light
This is Whataboutism and you are clearly a Wumao agent sent here to destroy democracy.
I don’t need to… Muricans took care of destroying democracy all on their own
We were doing a perfectly adequate job of that on our own
They should store the data in US servers like OpenAI does. Apparently then Mashable won’t write an article about it.
The criticism thrown at DeepSeek in the past days is just as applicable to American AI models. But when that was brought up it in the past it was “making things political”.
At least I can run DeepSeek locally.
This article is what US propaganda looks like folks. Mashable should be ashamed.
Literally all AI companies do this to run their services. Except you can actually download Deepseek and run it completely securely on your own devices. You know who doesn’t allow that security? OpenAI and the other US companies currently being screwed.
every google site has been doing this for years too. every comment we write in youtube and discard before posting, its being recorded. this isnt news at all.
Yes, I’m going to be lectured on privacy by people who are still on twitter.
Oh my, just wait until you learn what Facebook and Google do…
The Chinese now have data on my Linux vm and my curiosity about sweet potato and sweet potato recipe. They’re coming for me now!
Just host it yourself?
You can’t just host the 632B model that the app uses lol
If you have the hardware, then yes, you can.
By extension, anything that’s not self hosted means 3rd party actors snooping. American, Chinese, whoever happens to operate that machine.
So I won’t use this for the same reason I don’t use any AI? Cool
the company states that it may share user information to "comply with applicable law, legal process, or government requests.
Literally every company’s privacy policy here in the US basically just says that too.
Not only does DeepSeek collect “text or audio input, prompt, uploaded files, feedback, chat history, or other content that [the user] provide[s] to our model and Services,” but it also collects information from your device, including “device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language.”
Breaking news, company with chatbot you send messages to uses and stores the messages you send, and also does what practically every other app does for demographic statistics gathering and optimizations.
Companies with AI models like Google, Meta, and OpenAI collect similar troves of information, but their privacy policies do not mention collecting keystrokes. There’s also the added issue that DeepSeek sends your user data straight to Chinese servers.
They didn’t use the word keystrokes, therefore they don’t collect them? Of course they collect keystrokes, how else would you type anything into these apps?
In DeepSeek’s privacy policy, there’s no mention of the security of its servers. There’s nothing about whether data is encrypted, either stored or in transmission, and zero information about safeguards to prevent unauthorized access.
This is the only thing that seems disturbing to me, compared to what we’d like to expect based on the context of what DeepSeek is. Of course, this was proven recently in practice to be terrible policy, so I assume they might shore up their defenses a bit.
All the articles that talk about this as if it’s some big revelation just boil down to “company does exactly what every other big tech company does in America, except in China”
Collecting keystrokes is very different from collecting text inputted into fields. Keystroke rhythms is even more alarming as that is often used to identify users despite them using privacy settings, or used to collect what’s typed via audio collection.
Your argument that this is no different than other apps is complete crap. Don’t trust any app that collects that information
The argument stands, though.
Yes, not ALL other apps do that, but the comment was specifically talking about companies like Google and Meta… they definitely do collect incomplete strings from forms, down to individual characters when they display search suggestions, for example. They might not mention “keystrokes” in the legal text, but I don’t see why they wouldn’t be able to extrapolate your typing pattern since they do have the timing information which should be enough data to, at some level, profile it.
Idk DeepSeek probably just stores things in the history of my Terminal window.
Did they become american company?
Well, at least models are downloadable.
Get it all you can, nvidia’s already lobbying to make them a security risk, competition is bad for business.
