We are now at a time where US blocks China services in order to protect its companies

Just like many US services are banned in China in Order to protect their companies

So, I hope no surprise…

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Its or their for countries?

The mew type of capitalism 🙂 even worse

Joining an organisation is not speech, it is more. Talking that you think they have a right to attack Israel, that you think they should kill all xxx, they believe the government is lying to you, etc. that is free speech and is allowed.

Apparently it would if the government told you it did.

Sorry did not get what you trying to say here

Fedpol is not opinionated, they have a list of terror groups that are not written by frdpol and they have the order to not let anyone in trying to find more people joining that terror group

Please finally learn that our government is not homogenous and not a dictatorship. We have many devisions that do different stuff and oh boy they are never in consensus, there are people of any opinion in the swiss government. It is not a single entity like Trump, Putin, Xi, etc. Who have or think they have absolute power.

I am an extremist because I am not shouting “kill all Israel people?” Or is because I don’t say “kill all Judes” or what exactly makes me an extremist?!

I never told that Hamas invaded anyone, I just told that I don’t approve the ways they handle stuff. And that swiss government has but Hamas on the list of terrorist groups.

This means that fedPol has no choice but to not let Hamas supporters in, if they get wind of it.

Well, if a country gets invaded and freed after, that is not an invasion. At least if the invasion did happen in the last decade. I don’t support keeping old conflicts alive. Else everybody could invade anybody since any country invaded at least once since the concept of countries.

But yea, in my opinion, the takeover of germany by the end of WW2, where de big border through Berlin was build, was an invasion and I don’t approve that invasion (you still see the scars from that invasion)

And hear you the difference between you and me. I would never wish anyone to have to die if they don’t want to. Not even the worst child raping serial killer. I would prefer to analyse this person’s psychology and find reasons that has led to that outcome and do anything to prevent others people from getting on the same path.

As I heard from the 7. October, where the party was slain by Hamas (I say Hamas not Palestine on purpose here) it hit me hard, as I myself am a Person enjoying exactly this style of music. But never did I wish death to the shooters there. I would prefer to talk and find a way how we can forgive each other.

But if this wish makes me an extremist in your eyes, I really don’t know what is wrong with you…

😆 I guess I am one of the least racist people you’re know, like a literal hippie.

I definitely see swiss police incompetent enough that they let him through because of a high-roll persuasion action of the guy wanting to come in.

*extremist because I do support Palestine, and have the opinion that the Israel government has fucked up hard / is to be considered a terror organisation as well.

I do not see myself as extremist

I support celebrating defence but I do not support invasion

And attack a neighbour directly with 1000x power as answer of an event is not only defending

To nuance my sentence above

I am ok with “i think we need violence to achieve this” etc as opinion

But “these dogs need all to be hanged and killed like they were no humans” is not ok.

Yea, Supporting Hamas does, if you actually try convincing other people to do the same, since Switzerland officially sees Hamas as Terror organisation. Fedpol has only acted based on that, but not decided it.

Just supporting Palestine does not make you extremist

Yea, anyone who supports military to invade other countries is in my eyes an extremist. But I have to investigate how the definition of extremist is officially in swiss government.

Yea, I am looking for a deep analysis of this as well

Chinese companies can use that data against you as well…

Supporter and Extremist is not the same.

I don’t know this person not well enough to decide where to place him, but seeing his post on X, I strongly assume, that he advocated violence.

With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol

Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people

If that is the case, I will donate to organisations who make a proper investigation about it and use its results to issue an initiative changing that. I do that via the party that I am a member of (swiss pirate party)

😆how do you get to that conclusion, I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence

I need more evidence than a single entity that was bot let in and is in my opinion ok to not let in to conclude that we have a systemic problem in fedPol

I hope there are some good quality investigation reports about that

Supporter and extremist is not the same

My personal opinion is, that every country has “bad” and “good” people and I have no desire to have extremists in my country

If fedPol really does such a bad job preventing Israel supporting extremism from entering Switzerland, we indeed have to change that.

I support free speech and I am thankful for al the crical thinking in this comment thread. We don’t solve problems by ignoring each other.

Of course you can block me, but what is it worth? It limits you to see other opinions…

😆damn, and yea you are right, i have overseen that.

How to you call people who believe in the islamistic religion, if islamist is wrong?

Only popular people get onto the radar of Fedpol.

And Switzerland has swiss citizens, there are not only European people in Switzerland.

And yea, I agree, that Fedpol does not always do the right decision, meaning false positives and false negatives.

But with this guy, I agree with fedpol, at least with that little information I have, hope this X posts are really from him and mot a smear campaign.

But isn’t it understandable that Switzerland does not want foreign political organisations to interfere with the political landscape in Switzerland?

As told above already, I just hope (and fear that is not) that similar extremists supporting attacks from Isreal, are banned from entering our country as well.

Thank you for correcting! 🙏🏻

I got confused somehow, was not intentional

😆 so many different years

But yea, you are absolutely right

You ask me how it makes him an islamist after I commented regional context, i answer that I and the article never stated that he is a “islamist” (what that even mean, isn’t that just the same as saying someone is Jude/Christian??), and then you said I missed the point

🙉WTF

Right to defend is not equal celebrating death and destruction like it was some sort of a fucking party…

I agree with you, that Israel did not handle the situation like they should have. But I agree with Fedpol as well, to not let any extremist disturb the cultural peace we currently have in Switzerland.

🤣🤣🤣

You think NZZ has enough power to convince fedpol to ban any too popular individual from entering the country?