• TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, mansions, multinational offices, and banks, y’know, the ones belonging to the supposed oligarchs pushing the ever-diminishing standards of living have remained untouched.

    Face it, the protests have been hijacked by criminal opportunists with the barest facade of an excuse, and far from it being just “USians” condemning it, now every far-right social network in every part of the world pushed into the feeds by their respective Musks is taking advantage of the mayhem to associate it to their opposition and to top it off with a heavy dose of racism. Seeing Paris burned down by people who are students in facade only (and it’s easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting) has absolutely fed the growth of the far right across multiple countries while doing little to economically help anyone but the looters who help themselves.

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      Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future

      You’ll need to point out which small shops were looted, because from what’s been reported, it’s mostly luxury boutique stores.

      Nevermind, I saw the links you provided. Super unfortunate for the small shop owners

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      Once more, only insurances lost some money. Shopowners will be fine. Their shop will be renewed with insurance money. It is not the first time such happens, last was about a year ago…

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        Maybe it will be renewed, maybe it won’t. Maybe they weren’t insured or maybe their claim will just be rejected. Anyway it sucks big time for those who had their property destroyed even if they get back every euro.

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          Not insured for such? I am not sure if it is possible here, but it would be totally stupid. The only cause of rejection would come from proof the shopowner was at the initiative of looting and burning (which is rarely the case, but happens).

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        That’s not how insurance works. It covers only a small part of the losses, and only for the shops that can afford the rising rates for a decent one.

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            https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaheenajanjuhajivrajeurope/2026/10/19/big-names-will-recover-from-frances-riots-family-shops-may-not/

            https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2026/10/19/theres-nothing-left-french-businesses-count-the-cost-of-a-weekend-of-unrest/

            https://www.euronews.com/2026/10/20/frances-riot-damage-doubles-who-will-pay-for-thousands-of-wrecked-shops

            Ironically enough, the big multinational shopping centers will be the ones most likely to recover. Half the businesses lacked loss of activity coverage, and there were plenty of them that had to wait half a year or more for any payout. Thinking there were no bankruptcies is ignorance beyond belief.

            Just because you don’t see or care about owners having to pass down their businesses and just treat them like faceless stores doesn’t mean they aren’t forced to roll over. It’s like claiming who cares about riot police being violent with protestors when they can just go to the hospital.

            You know how the economy is, and you are choosing to victim blame the riot victims if they are “stupid” enough not to be able to get back on their feet, no matter if they have literally nothing to do with what the protests are supposedly against. Just don’t be surprised when your rationale ends up with those shops eventually ending up in the hands of the large multinationals that can survive it and the society becomes even more dystopian.

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              I live in France, in a working class/poor side of town. During last riots (2023), some shops got looted and burnt, some only looted (and some fully spared). They were not multinationals, just local shops. All of them got rebuilt and renewed, or reimboursed of the stolen goods. None has closed. I care about them, they are the shops where I buy things.

              I may check what international news say in their analysis ; but understand that it is not that easy to believe this time will be very different from the previous one, while the previous one was already as the one before it.

              And no, violence toward humans isn’t the same as stealing from a shop, nor violence against goods. Should some hurt, even lightly, a shopowner, it would be a big thing in my opinion. Violences against material things aren’t that important, some may not be smart nor usefull ; some can be helpful for the cause.

              Also, keep in mind that since at least 15 years, in France, the gouvernment won’t try to listen the people if there are no huge damages. So you may hate it, but that has became a rule. When a pacific dialog was possible, there were no riots here, just peaceful manifestations.

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      4 days ago

      and it’s easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting

      You’re this close, keep trying.